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DysonInventsBig


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Dyson, In The News...
Original Message   Sep 11, 2007 5:40 pm

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #147   May 22, 2008 8:47 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

 

 Carmine, personally I do not care which model vac he used as a recycled vacuum.  Dates (pre-dating all others) and/or doing it first is what I look at when determining pioneers.        DIB

 

 Carmine, personally I do not care which model vac he used as a recycled vacuum.  Dates (pre-dating all others) and/or doing it first is what I look at when determining pioneers.        DIB



Hello DIB:

While that answer may suffice on a forum, unfortunately it won't hold up in a court of law and/or with a judge.  Both are looking for facts that can be proven and verified.  It's not what one personally thinks that matters.  It's what one can prove. 

A lawyer for a defendant in a lawsuit/arbitration hearing with dyson would have a field day with the obvious contradiction by dyson on which model is "the World's First."  My sense is the lawyer for the defense will respond something to the effect as this:  Your Honor/Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury:  If dyson can't say for sure which of its own models is the World's First, then how and why should you expect my poor client to know?

Result: Case dismissed. 

My sense is that if dyson goes the NAD route, which in all likelihood it will just for general principle, Electrolux will make the same defense.  Dyson can't call 2 separate and distinct models the World's First, then object when another company claims its own as the World's First and expect immunity for its own actions.  

Dyson puts itself into the untenable position of defending its World' First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone against itself.  The DC03 users manual that Tom Gasko cited can't be used as proof.  Dyson is estopped from using the DC03 proof because it contradicts dyson's World's First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone. 

The reason I personally and professionally believe that the vacuum makers would enjoy seeing dyson take Electrolux to court. 

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #148   May 23, 2008 7:54 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello DIB:

Dyson puts itself into the untenable position of defending its World' First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone against itself.  The DC03 users manual that Tom Gasko cited can't be used as proof.  Dyson is estopped from using the DC03 proof because it contradicts dyson's World's First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone. 

The reason I personally and professionally believe that the vacuum makers would enjoy seeing dyson take Electrolux to court. 

Carmine D.


Hello DIB:

Do I gather from the lack of response, that we can say this dyson/Electrolux case is closed?  At least here and now?

As an answer to your earlier question to me, I'd say that Electrolux did its homework and research much better than dyson.  Would you aree?

Carmine D.

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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #149   Jun 9, 2008 8:20 pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1025043/Spin-dry-The-washing-machine-needs-just-cup-water.html

A proposed method for a washing machine that does a load on a cup of water. Is hyped as doing for the washing machine, what Dyson did for vacuum cleaners.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #150   Jun 9, 2008 10:32 pm
Hello M00seUK:

Interesting article.  But what does it sell for?

Carmine D.

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M00seUK


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #151   Jun 10, 2008 5:18 am

No idea what it will sell for, it hasn't hit the market yet. Maybe the water suppliers will subsidise it, even for metered supplies.
As crazy as it sounds, the energy suppliers are doing this, to play up to their green image.
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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #152   Jun 10, 2008 7:59 am
Hello M00seUK:

I live in the desert.  Water is in short supply and big demand.  I think the product has merit.  Home builders, suffering the worse sales and profits in decades, would rally behind this product [depending on the pric] and include in their new houses.  Especially builders here in the desert.  Appliance retailers too.  City, county and state authorities too. 

Carmine D.

M00seUK


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #153   Jun 10, 2008 8:03 am
CarmineD wrote:
Hello M00seUK:

I live in the desert.  Water is in short supply and big demand.  I think the product has merit.  Home builders, suffering the worse sales and profits in decades, would rally behind this product [depending on the pric] and include in their new houses.  Especially builders here in the desert.  Appliance retailers too.  City, county and state authorities too. 

Carmine D.


That's why 'Vegas has those big fountain displays - it's to say  "There's so much money here, we can afford to throw this water about in the desert!"
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #154   Jun 10, 2008 8:10 am
M00seUK wrote:
That's why 'Vegas has those big fountain displays - it's to say  "There's so much money here, we can afford to throw this water about in the desert!"


When you visit next, you'll see that they have been cut back drastically!  Not completely but with severe restrictions and limitations now.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #155   Jun 15, 2008 12:52 pm
M00seUK wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1025043/Spin-dry-The-washing-machine-needs-just-cup-water.html

A proposed method for a washing machine that does a load on a cup of water. Is hyped as doing for the washing machine, what Dyson did for vacuum cleaners.


The Water Saving - Plastic Chip Using washing machine (invention) story was picked up by This Is London, with reader comments.   Here.

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CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #156   Jun 17, 2008 12:18 pm
If you are still eager to get a new dyson DC07 at a bargain price for yourself or to gift away, KOHL's is the latest big box store to join with all the others to discontinue the oldest dyson model. 

The KOHL's advertised price is $339 BEFORE an instant cash savings at the checkout of $40.  Plus, for every $50 spent, KOHL's gives away $10 in KOHL's cash.  Final cost for a new DC07 after all the instant rebates and incentives is $ 240.  Good things come to those who wait.  This beats the price I paid at TARGET in August 2006 for the DC07 pink.  My cost was $250.

Valid in stores and on-line June 18-21.  Time to buy? 

Carmine D.

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