Vacuum Cleaners Discussions

CarmineD wrote:

Hi,

I have posted this many times on this forum.  I believe James is his own worst enemy at times.  I wonder is his generals and alike are afraid to say "no, this does not work or work better than what the competitors have."  I absolutely hate the wand, hose and power head on my DC21, I'll go as far as saying it is stupid.  Dyson simply needs to copy what is working on other vacuums.  Do you think the Eureka Boss (CR's #1 pic) has some sort of secret sauce or proprietary invention in it's brush roll or nozzle design?  Start there, Dyson should copy this and not feel guilty, after all these old inventions are in the public domain.        DIB

Hello DIB:

See, proof positive that in fact we do agree sometimes.

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

The EUREKA BOSS Smart vacuum has long been a Consumer Reports' Best Buy and the number one recommended upright with on-board tools.  A bagged vacuum.  Made in China.  Retails for $140.  Rarely if ever advertised by retailers let alone on sale.  [Although the CR March 2008 excluded it from its review.] 

All the big box retailers carry and sell this vacuum, in large part, because it is well worth the money and a stalwart in the vacuum industry of disposables.  It has two tried and tested vacuum features: An industry standard brush roll and a manual rug height adjustment [CR is a stickler for the latter].

I take exception to your use of the words above.  Preferring instead the words Trilobite uses:  Tried and tested.  Old in our culture has a very negative connotation.  Tried and tested and seasoned are much nicer sounding.

Carmine D.

And lets not forget that EUREKA'S younger brother  SANITAIRE is the best bang for the buck vacuum on the planet..............

mole

DysonInventsBig wrote:

Hello DIB:

While that answer may suffice on a forum, unfortunately it won't hold up in a court of law and/or with a judge.  Both are looking for facts that can be proven and verified.  It's not what one personally thinks that matters.  It's what one can prove. 

A lawyer for a defendant in a lawsuit/arbitration hearing with dyson would have a field day with the obvious contradiction by dyson on which model is "the World's First."  My sense is the lawyer for the defense will respond something to the effect as this:  Your Honor/Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury:  If dyson can't say for sure which of its own models is the World's First, then how and why should you expect my poor client to know?

Result: Case dismissed. 

My sense is that if dyson goes the NAD route, which in all likelihood it will just for general principle, Electrolux will make the same defense.  Dyson can't call 2 separate and distinct models the World's First, then object when another company claims its own as the World's First and expect immunity for its own actions.  

Dyson puts itself into the untenable position of defending its World' First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone against itself.  The DC03 users manual that Tom Gasko cited can't be used as proof.  Dyson is estopped from using the DC03 proof because it contradicts dyson's World's First claim for the DC02 ReCyclone. 

The reason I personally and professionally believe that the vacuum makers would enjoy seeing dyson take Electrolux to court. 

Carmine D.

CarmineD wrote:

Hello DIB:

Do I gather from the lack of response, that we can say this dyson/Electrolux case is closed?  At least here and now?

As an answer to your earlier question to me, I'd say that Electrolux did its homework and research much better than dyson.  Would you aree?

Carmine D.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1025043/Spin-dry-The-washing-machine-needs-just-cup-water.html

A proposed method for a washing machine that does a load on a cup of water. Is hyped as doing for the washing machine, what Dyson did for vacuum cleaners.

Hello M00seUK:

Interesting article.  But what does it sell for?

Carmine D.

No idea what it will sell for, it hasn't hit the market yet. Maybe the water suppliers will subsidise it, even for metered supplies.
As crazy as it sounds, the energy suppliers are doing this, to play up to their green image.

This message was modified Jun 10, 2008 by M00seUK

Hello M00seUK:

I live in the desert.  Water is in short supply and big demand.  I think the product has merit.  Home builders, suffering the worse sales and profits in decades, would rally behind this product [depending on the pric] and include in their new houses.  Especially builders here in the desert.  Appliance retailers too.  City, county and state authorities too. 

Carmine D.