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DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Points: 1454

Dyson, In The News...
Original Message   Sep 11, 2007 5:40 pm

This message was modified Jan 29, 2008 by DysonInventsBig



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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
Points: 5894

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #122   May 17, 2008 3:21 pm
Motorhead wrote:
As I said before, watch out.  They don't want your opinion, they want your MONEY. 

They don't care what non-experts have to say, James' opinion is the only opinion that matters. 



Thanks for your opinion once again.  You are certainly a loyal dyson admirer and fan, which preempts you from objectivity.  My sense is the research marketing companies seek an honest broker who has no vested interest in dyson/dyson products.  [Did I mention I've received several telephone calls too for the same purpose?]

While I have the time and the wherewithal, unfortunately I do not have the inclination.  The dyson DC24 doesn't interest me at all.  Saw it, tried it, don't like it.  A downsized DC18 Slim which are $399 retail before discounts and incentives at the big box stores which stock them. 

By last count there are 5 different companies and 9 offers of a free DC24.  

Carmine D.

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CarmineD


Joined: Dec 31, 2007
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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #123   May 17, 2008 5:06 pm
Hello DIB:

Cali was looking good as ever and certainly worth tuning in, but the only dyson was the DC14 with a turbo and an extra filter for $449.  And Dave did all the demo-ing.  Did something go awry on HSA again?

Carmine D.

DysonInventsBig


Location: USA
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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #124   May 17, 2008 5:33 pm

Carmine:  Yes, it looks like the last Dyson 2nd Anniversary show was bumped and a cookware line called Green Pan took its time slot.  A HSN rep says they have sold over 1m Green Pans in 9 days. – And so Dyson got bumped (just a guess).  Both the DC24 and DC25 were demoed earlier in the day.        DIB


HARDSELL


Joined: Aug 22, 2007
Points: 1293

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #125   May 17, 2008 7:03 pm
Motorhead wrote:
As I said before, watch out.  They don't want your opinion, they want your MONEY. 

They don't care what non-experts have to say, James' opinion is the only opinion that matters. 



I have to disagree.  Carmine is the only one that has received this offer. They want his opinion.  Since he is wrong so many times they will know that all his recommendations will fail and they will not have to make the same mistakes.

Remember,  As a consultant Carmine recommended failures as opposed to Dyson and he has hated them ever since.

Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #126   May 17, 2008 10:35 pm
HARDSELL wrote:
I have to disagree.  Carmine is the only one that has received this offer. They want his opinion.  Since he is wrong so many times they will know that all his recommendations will fail and they will not have to make the same mistakes.

Remember,  As a consultant Carmine recommended failures as opposed to Dyson and he has hated them ever since.


In that case I have to wonder if said offer even exists, especially since there are a number of posters here whose posts have been cached by the Google bots and can be easily found.  Even if it was/is spam I doubt it would be sent to only one poster.  At any rate, if I received a legitimate offer for a free Dyson of course I would accept it depending on what I had to do.  Hell, I'd even take a free Oreck, as shocking as that sounds coming from someone who hates Orecks. 

But you don't see that nowadays, especially considering that 99% of email "offers" are usually fake.  No one just "gives away" free Dysons unless the parties who made the initial purchase can be compensated for it (i.e. drawings and the like).  The machines have to come from somewhere, and be purchased by someone.

As far as failed recommendations go, at least the prospective customers who have come here seeking a recommendation know better than to take Carmine's rantings seriously

-MH
CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #127   May 18, 2008 7:40 am
Motorhead wrote:
In that case I have to wonder if said offer even exists, especially since there are a number of posters here whose posts have been cached by the Google bots and can be easily found.  Even if it was/is spam I doubt it would be sent to only one poster.  At any rate, if I received a legitimate offer for a free Dyson of course I would accept it depending on what I had to do.  Hell, I'd even take a free Oreck, as shocking as that sounds coming from someone who hates Orecks. 

-MH


Hello MH:

I highlighted the relevant words.  I've saved some of the recent emails with the offers.  I'd be happy to forward one/more to any one who wants them.  Send me a private message here and I will.  You too MH.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #128   May 18, 2008 7:43 am
DysonInventsBig wrote:

Carmine:  Yes, it looks like the last Dyson 2nd Anniversary show was bumped and a cookware line called Green Pan took its time slot.  A HSN rep says they have sold over 1m Green Pans in 9 days. – And so Dyson got bumped (just a guess).  Both the DC24 and DC25 were demoed earlier in the day.        DIB



Hi DIB:

I missed it.  But not Cali.  She could sell me anything.

Carmine D.

CarmineD


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Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #129   May 18, 2008 4:22 pm
 

Hello MH:

Here's the latest.  I have more but this should do for the purpose.  This was sent to 6 others as well as me in the same email.  Maybe you can get the offer too if you respond back to company.  Be my guest.  I have no plans to accept the offer.

Carmine D.

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Motorhead


Joined: Nov 2, 2007
Points: 409

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #130   May 18, 2008 5:37 pm
You have to be the stupidest person in the world to fall for this $#%*.  This is EXACTLY why no one should take your advice seriously.  Did you happen to read the details of this so-called offer?  As I said, they don't want your opinion, they will never ask you questions about the Dyson.  They only want your money.  Here is a piece taken directly from the details page outlining "Sponsor Offers":

Please note Sponsor offers may require you to sample and/or purchase products of interest and/or take other actions such as applying for or obtaining a loan or extension of credit (including credit cards), transferring a balance, or similar steps. In order to remain eligible for your gift, you must complete all of the sponsor offers that require you to sample and purchase products of interest within 180 days of signing up for our service.

Another excerpt from the so-called "offer":

Please note that once you have clicked to and started and/or completed a transaction with a sponsor, you are subject to that sponsor's terms, conditions and rules on cancellation, and such transactions cannot be canceled by or through the brandnamerewards.com or by failure to complete the requisite number of sponsor offers specified above.

And yet another:

In some cases an additional step by you is required to satisfy the Sponsor's qualifications. By way of example that is not intended to be exhaustive, all-inclusive, or otherwise limiting, a Sponsor offer for, for example, credit card or similar service may require you to use the credit card to make a purchase, take a cash advance, or transfer a balance, to satisfy the Sponsor's qualifications. The time it takes you to complete this step is in your control and not that of the Service or the Sponsor, and the qualification time for such Sponsor offers accordingly will vary based in part on the time you take to satisfy this requirement.

Finally, the coup de gras:

Prizes subject to availability, and quantities may be limited. brandnamerewards.com reserves the right to substitute a prize of equal or greater value. brandnamerewards.com reserves the right to cancel any offer at any time for any reason, with or without notice.

That says it all.  ANYONE who could be considered an "expert" would be able to tell that this SCREAMS "scam".  There is no other way to say it.  You will NEVER receive the machine, it won't happen, ever, and even if it did you would probably pay over $1000 in "Sponsor Offers" to get it. 

As I said before, James does NOT want your opinion.  HIS opinion is the only one that matters, he does NOT want one of a so-called "expert".  He has gotten along without you for 25 years, I don't think he will have a problem keeping it that way for a few more

-MH
M00seUK


Joined: Aug 18, 2007
Points: 295

Re: Dyson, In The News...
Reply #131   May 18, 2008 5:59 pm
There's good money for the promoter, by getting people to perform these actions. For example, taking out a loan might pay them $100 in commision.
Clearly, they need to get you to do a number of these, before they can even consider coming good on their free gift offer - although they'd likely collect their returns and scam you off with something of perceived high value. The Dyson is the bait, it's inclusion is purely a highly recognized, desirable object - nothing more.
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