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Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Original Message   Feb 18, 2005 2:23 pm
What is the purpose of sleeving the bore of a new engine with cast iron? The ohv Snow King Tecumsehs still have the sleeve while according to my dealer the Briggs Snow Intek does not.

I am aware of sleeving being used to keep in service engines that have been bored to the point that the cylinder walls are too thin. Again,why on a new engine?

Marc 

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snowshoveler


tides in dirts out surfs up

Location: bridgewater nova scotia...aka the swamp
Joined: Jan 3, 2003
Points: 1261

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #30   Feb 21, 2005 5:42 pm
okay so i emailed briggs about this and got the answer...

it is type number sensitive..

12D300 cast iron liner

20D300 cast iron liner

20F400 cast iron liner

20A400 aluminum bore.

i also called technical services while i was on my lunch break,(the stuff i do for my friends).

tech i spoke with said all the intek engines are cast iron liners...i fired him on the spot.

he said only the mowers and tillers had the aluminum bores. still not impressed i advised him to get a bit better information.

he called me back after he called the "factory"and then told me it depends on the type numbers.

i mentioned that it is to hard for a consumer to get this info and that they have to change it in a hurry.

thats all for now.

later chris

craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks   husky 372xpg chainsaw   sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw   mondo trimmer   monster tractor with trailer    cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree 
robmints


Joined: May 13, 2003
Points: 4691

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #31   Feb 21, 2005 5:55 pm
Great info Chris. This should not be such a mystery, should it?
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #32   Feb 21, 2005 6:00 pm
Hey Rob,

   That was Snowshoveler with the Info!!

  Are we all getting old??

                           Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
snowshoveler


tides in dirts out surfs up

Location: bridgewater nova scotia...aka the swamp
Joined: Jan 3, 2003
Points: 1261

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #33   Feb 21, 2005 6:05 pm
got ya...

snowshoveler ...thats me and my name is also chris ...not chris s thats another guy here .

he is much taller than me so you wont have any problem telling us apart.

later chris

craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks   husky 372xpg chainsaw   sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw   mondo trimmer   monster tractor with trailer    cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree 
Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #34   Feb 21, 2005 6:13 pm
I think I'm going to have to step over to Marshall's side of the street.  Maybe it really will be the year 2020 before we can actually get the correct information from the manufacturers.   

I think I'm going to start a new thread soon.  I want it to be called, "If you had to design a new OPE engine, what features should it have?"  I don't think that'll fit on a title. 

Richie
Walt


Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. -T. Roosevelt

Location: Chester County, PA
Joined: Dec 31, 2004
Points: 148

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #35   Feb 21, 2005 6:40 pm
Richie,

I think OPE should have a high content of Titanium and Nitinol (memory metal = Titanium and Nickel alloy). It would be light weight and extremely strong. If you did wreck it, you could heat the Nitinol and it would reshape itself! (Great stuff).  No more bent augers.  We already know about Titanium and it's weight/strength.

I would also include a Uranium 235 full cell for Nuclear power.  With all of the snow you could cool the blower, supply the water for steam and / or melt the snow with the Uranium; as well as blow in your boxers because it would be very warm.  1 pellet from a Nuclear Power plant is equivalent to 1 ton of fossil fuel, hence clean as anything!  Greenpeace, eat your heart out. ( 1 cell could last quite some time). 

I would also make the power system swap with all my other OPE products.  Because of the light weight it would be easy to transfer from mower to blower etc.

I wouldn't need a headlight either  Green illumination included!!!

"Where's your thread"

Walt

Richie


Bring On The White Stuff

Location: Long Island, New York
Joined: Dec 12, 2003
Points: 562

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #36   Feb 21, 2005 6:47 pm
Walt wrote:
Richie,

I think OPE should have a high content of Titanium and Nitinol (memory metal = Titanium and Nickel alloy). I wouldn't need a headlight either  Green illumination included!!!
"Where's your thread"


Walt,

I love it!  Yes, the memory metal is very cool, I've seen it demonstrated.  I got a kick out of the "green illumination lighting."  When I start the thread, I'll be sure to move this post over to it.   

This message was modified Feb 21, 2005 by Richie


Richie
ChrisS


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Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #37   Feb 21, 2005 6:52 pm
snowshoveler wrote:
got ya...

snowshoveler ...thats me and my name is also chris ...not chris s thats another guy here .

he is much taller than me so you wont have any problem telling us apart.

later chris


LOL.....I doubt that Chris......

C

Honda 928TA, Ariens 924 STE, Toro single stage S-620, 95 Jeep Wrangler with a 6 foot Fisher Plow, many shovels, one 14 year old boy.  Craftsman 01 1000 LTX pimp Gold LT 20hp Briggs OHV V-twin.  Tough as it is ugly.
robmints


Joined: May 13, 2003
Points: 4691

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #38   Feb 21, 2005 7:01 pm
jubol wrote:
Hey Rob,

   That was Snowshoveler with the Info!!

  Are we all getting old??

                           Fred


Fred,
I'm young, smart, good looking, have a winning smile, good sense of humor, and rich.

Oops, wrong forum.

Chris who?
Walt


Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. -T. Roosevelt

Location: Chester County, PA
Joined: Dec 31, 2004
Points: 148

Re: Cast Iron Cylinder Sleeves
Reply #39   Feb 21, 2005 7:04 pm
Thanks Richie,

I'm always willing to start a conversation.  (My wife just wonders if I know how to stop one!)

Walt

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