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newtonian
Location: Windsor CT
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Misery from not properly storing a new Ariens....
Original Message Dec 5, 2012 1:11 pm |
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(thread updated 12/15/13, same problem!) I was negligent last year and never put my new 11.5HP Platinum Ariens into storage. It sat with 1/2 tank of fuel from the dealer, was never used during that remarkable winter and now.... when I tried starting it not a thing happened. The motor turned over without a sputter. Having learned a few things from reading this board (thank you) I found the carb and cleaned out the not surprisingly clogged jet with a single strand of wire from lamp cord. The bottom of the bowl was clean, I reused the bowl gaskets tightening things enough that it didn't leak. I didn't want to overdo it. It started immediatly I then added 1/2 tank of fresh gas to the 1/2 tank of old gas that came with it, some Stabil, and inflated the tires to 18PSI. Some questions: 1) Should I check on or clean anything else? 2) Is there a service manual for the engine? Just looking at it, I didn't know which cover to remove to find the carb and still don't know which cover the spark plug is hiding under. I see generic instructions for operating the engine, but not for service. 3) The inside of the bowl was uniform all around, and there's a tail of sorts molded into the exterior underside. Does it matter which direction it's installed? I know with the older carbs it does, but it didn't seem to matter with this one. Of interest, I had an older 9526DLE stored next to it, under similar circumstances, and it started instantly.
This message was modified Dec 26, 2013 by a moderator
2012 Ariens ST24DLE
Semi Retired Ariens 9526 in active reserve
Unknown vintage 5HP Ariens to restore
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newtonian
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Re: Misery from not properly storing a new Ariens....
Reply #26 Dec 16, 2013 1:10 pm |
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You're probably right about the gunk coming from the fuel valve area. It was run dry last spring, but the tank had some fuel. I would like to clean the carb up a bit in case there's more crud in there I missed. It's nothing more than an ounce of prevention. The carb is either a 590907 or 798918 Ruixing. Been looking online for guidance cleaning that specific model... does it exist? Also, the fuel bowl has a tail on the outside that lined up with the fuel inlet. The inside of the bowl is uniform all around. On the Tecumseh bowl alignment is important, is it on the Ruixing? Techron, SeaFoam or Stabil?
2012 Ariens ST24DLE
Semi Retired Ariens 9526 in active reserve
Unknown vintage 5HP Ariens to restore
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borat
 
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Re: Misery from not properly storing a new Ariens....
Reply #27 Dec 17, 2013 4:55 pm |
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If the engine is running, don't sweat the deep carb clean. As JRT said, if it runs well, be happy with that. If and when you think you need to get into the carb in a bigger way, just run that thin copper wire into every tiny little orifice, hole, jet, gallery, passage that you can see. The tiniest are the ones in the carb throat/venturi. They're almost invisible, particularly if you have tired eyes like a lot of us.
In the spring, drain all fuel from the fuel tank and run the carb dry. You shouldn't have problems the next season. Also, I agree with adding an inline fuel filter.
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niper99
Location: London Ont
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Re: Misery from not properly storing a new Ariens....
Reply #28 Dec 18, 2013 10:00 pm |
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Wow.. Same darned thing the next year (almost to the day!) and I thought I did it right. <BR><BR>Last fall I added Stabil to 1/2 tank of fuel and let the carb run dry and stall the engine before storing it.<BR><BR>This year, it started right up and thought I was set to go, but it stalled as soon as there was a load. Repeatedly. Then after idling a long time tried again and it went a bit further and died under load. Impossible to start again.<BR><BR>Took off the plastic shroud covers, removed the spark plug and it was dry. Removed the fuel line at the carb and it flowed well. Removed bowl and found a little soggy rice like crud. Cleaned the small orifices in the bowl nut I think that was the problem), ran some fuel through the bowl-less carb to check flow, put it back together and it started right up and went to work.<BR><BR>Thankful for boards like this that teach the average Joe what to do at times like that. <BR><BR><BR><BR>I do want to give the carb a deeper cleaning, but haven't been able to find a model number to guide me along. It's this exact engine:<BR><BR>http://www.briggsandstratton.com/us/en/engines/snow-blower-engines/1150-series-pf<BR>I believe the part number for the engine is 08200811.<BR><BR>Any help identifying the carb appreciated, along with advice for anything I should be doing at this time. I never did find the service manual for this engine, either. Does one exist?<BR><BR><BR><BR>Should the bowl be removed and cleaned in the spring after it's run dry and before it goes into summer storage?<BR><BR>Its one great machine when it's running!
Nice diagnostics skills!!!
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