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Majorxlr8n
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Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Original Message Feb 8, 2005 1:44 am |
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I have exhaustively searched for a left side auger gearcase half for my Sears/Murray model 536.918200 snowblower but have come up empty. The Murray p/n is 50217. The national Murray parts distributor has none & shows part as NLA. The reason I need one is that I accidently BROKE it in two when removing one of the auger rakes. I am considering brazing the broken 2 pieces back together - any tips to make a successful repair? Thanks! Marty
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Walt
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #3 Feb 8, 2005 6:50 am |
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Ben07
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #4 Feb 8, 2005 12:24 pm |
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That is a good idea. The process for welding aluminum is called heiliarc. (not sure of spelling pronounced he-le-arc) hard to find places to do that. if a Harley shop can't do it , then they will certainly know where to tell you to find one Ben
This message was modified Feb 8, 2005 by Ben07
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jdavidson
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #5 Feb 8, 2005 2:24 pm |
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You can order replacement parts from sears. I have the same model snowblower and had the same problem. I would reccomend both halves as they changed the design along the bottom of the case and added more bolts to reinforce the bottom. But the 4 orignal holes do line up with the new style gearcase design. You need Sears part 51278 (murrary #10577) for the right half, and 51277 (murray #10576) for the left half. Gasket is sears part #51279. Cost was $12.14 per half, and $2.16 for the gasket. I was able to reuse my original seals. I found this while searching parts on sears website, and found that 536.9182* brought up a 536.918200, 536.918201, and 536.918202 model. There are more parts still available for 536.918201 and at least the gearbox is compatible with 536.918200!
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mml4
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #6 Feb 8, 2005 8:15 pm |
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Hey Marty! Buy Jdavidson a beer. Nobody gonna weld that up for $12 and change per side! Marc
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Majorxlr8n
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #8 Feb 8, 2005 11:41 pm |
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All you guys are AWESOME - I can't thank you enough for the help! Rob - thank you LOADS for the welding offer but it looks like I have a solution thanks to JDavidson! JDavidson - YOU ARE THE MAN!! I never thought of wildcard (*) searching on the website. I cannot thank you enough for posting all your hard earned findings, results AND the part numbers to help me out! The only question I have is which input shaft washers/thrust collar OR needle bearing is used - my old case part numbers or the ones for the new case? Otherwise, I noticed the bushings & oil seals are identical to both style cases. I received prices close to $100 to weld this up which was out of the question. Thanks to "JD" I have a much less expensive alternative which kept this old Sears from either being scrapped or becoming a parts machine! I actually tried to MIG weld this with steel wire (mistake #1). I couldn't see at all, so I didn't use my welding helmet (BIG mistake #2) & virtually had no eyesight over the weekend. USE EYE PROTECTION WHEN WELDING GUYS & GALS!!! REGARDS & THANK YOU! Marty
This message was modified Feb 9, 2005 by Majorxlr8n
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jdavidson
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #9 Feb 9, 2005 8:52 am |
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I was able to reuse all of my original parts when reassembling except for the gasket and gearcase halves. Everything fit perfectly. Only strange thing is one of the halves has a smooth unthreaded hole for adding gearcase lube which you'll have to close off. I was in my local home improvement store recently that has murray snowblowers and they all had the same gearcase design that I just put on my 25+ year old one! I was not sure the parts would work, but was willing to take a chance for $26 plus shipping, I could have always returned them to sears.
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Majorxlr8n
Location: Freehold NJ
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Re: Sears Auger Gearcase Needed/Brazing Alunimum?
Reply #12 Feb 11, 2005 1:12 am |
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Nav - I couldn't believe my ears when I got those prices to make a 4" weld on such a small piece. I ordered everything Wed night (about $70). Once that frozen auger is freed, then all I have to do is reassemble everything. I'll probably paint the auger rakes as they look horrible from all the beating & heating. Then, 4 head bolt threads on the engine need to be helicoiled (they're stripped out), a few machine/engine adjustments, then this guy will truely be like NEW. A word to the wise - if you're reassembling a machine, highly consider using ANTISEIZE on ALL the shafts. This way if you ever have to remove any rakes, pulleys or impellers, they should come off easilly. Marty
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