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jrtrebor
Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
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Re: Snow Commnader - First Impressions
Reply #2 Dec 30, 2012 7:19 pm |
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What are the rpms set at? Stock is around 4000 to 4200.
For experimental purposes shovel a row of snow to increase available volume. Try it out on that. If it still isn't throwing snow, pump up the revs. Just bend the tab for the governor spring. I wouldn't hesitate to crank it up to around 4500 to 4700. That should be plenty.
One other thing to look at is the belt and pulley housing. Ensure that there's no snow getting in there, melting and causing the belt to slip.
I've got it set at about 4300 Had the pulley housing off right after I used it to check the belt. No snow or water behind the cover. The way it was putting out snow I turned the chute and lowered the deflector to dump the flow into what would be my next path. Same thing as you were talking about doing. (Just no shoveling involved). It did throw better. But I still wasn't working with that much snow. I'm still wondering about paddle wear. Because in addition to the short throwing distance. It seemed to be kind of churning the snow up front. Although blowers can tend to do that if they don't have enough volume coming in as well. I shot a little video.It was spur of the moment so it's pretty bad. You might turn your volume down alittle.
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borat
Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: Snow Commnader - First Impressions
Reply #8 Dec 31, 2012 9:09 am |
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I doubt that Toro would design the machine to sacrifice distance for volume. At least not to the less than impressive distance depicted in your video. The additional three inches of width is compensated with more power and three paddles. If there is a limit in distance, it would likely be only by five feet or so. Meaning that Toro advertizes between 30 and 35 ft. throwing distance. The Snow Commander might be limited to 25', which in reality is quite good. From my experience with my new 221 vs. the Tecumseh powered machines, the Toro might achieve 30' with perfect snow and a back wind. Otherwise, around 20', give or take a few ft. would be normal. Speaking of distance, how exactly is the distance measured? It's not like the snow has concise dimensions like a piece of rope. If the paddles are worn, that will likely effect distance thrown on certain types of snow. Having the deflector at 90 degrees will also inhibit distance. I would surmise that with sufficient half decent snow, the deflector up, increase rpms to around 4700, the machine will throw snow much further. Here's something that you might want to read. It's in the "Reviews" section: http://www.abbysguide.com/snow-blower/reviews/38-0-1.html You will note that throwing distance is on par with other Toro claims.
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trouts2
Location: Marlboro MA
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Re: Snow Commnader - First Impressions
Reply #9 Dec 31, 2012 11:44 am |
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Borat: Speaking of distance, how exactly is the distance measured? A puzzle but I would imagine done in the usually way under the eye of marketing with optimal conditions of density, compactness, moisture, height that would rarely occur. Most distance spec’s are caveated or footnoted with depending on conditions. Many are a range which is more realistic than a best condition max. I’ve seen some start at 3 feet on the low end. Most people I talk about distance expect to always be tossing at the spec max which is unrealistic. In average snow a 3hp Powerlite does 15-25 and the crew of 2450’s, 3650’s and up 20-30. Jrtrebor, At least to me the video seems to show enough snow to be tossed well, 10-15 feet. The output is a flow so different than what I see with low inches of snow with an SS. What usually comes out with low snow is a flurry that has no energy and dosen’t go more than a few feet. It’s blown all over close to the machine. The low snow in the video seems dense enough to be tossable. The speed of the flow out in the video seems very slow so an RPM issue. The gap of ¼ to 3/8 is pretty big and could an issue also. It would be picking up more snow per paddle with a two paddle but the flow does seems enough to be tossed and not a problem. I would think with that snow and the usual Toro pulley ratios and an RPM 4000-4100 you would have gotten a toss of 10+ feet and very wide.
On the 24 width. That might be a bit much in higher denser snow that a Toro 21inch 6.5hp would handle better. In bigger snow the bite pull poops out so quite a bit of pushing required on my 21 inch machines with the handles against the hips.
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jrtrebor
Location: Michigan - 3 hours north of Chicago on the lake
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Re: Snow Commnader - First Impressions
Reply #10 Dec 31, 2012 4:36 pm |
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Took a little closer look at things today. I'm no rocket scientist, but .... This looks like the main cause of the lack of distance when I was trying to throw that small volume of snow. The space is just a little to wide. Don't you think... That's a short 3/8" drive extension. The gap has got to be 1/2"+ This is the worst of the three paddles. But the other two aren't much better. With that large of a gap the snow was simply piling up in the housing. Until the volume was great enough to be limply thrown out. You can kind or see that happening in the video.
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