Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Well I've spent a lot of time researching new blowers and came very close to bring home the JD 1330se today but got cold feet after reading about the slipping drive issues. I'd be very interested to hear any long term reviews on this unit as it appears unchanged since 2010. I do have a JD dealer 10 miles from home so prep and support should be better than a Lowes units? Also if there is another blower 30ish inches I should consider please let me know. I live in northern MI with a 150' drive see a fair amount of snow. I dont mind paying a premium for quality if it makes for years of trouble free operation. Thanks for your input

Iscopes01 wrote:

In This Photo you see the problem with these Friction Wheel Drives.  The Rubber faced "Friction Wheel" is already looking like a Bald Tire on this machine. This photo shows that rubber wheel and how it is able to slide across the axle it rides on, and that powers the wheels when you squeeze the handle and it rides on the metal disc that sompne has painted grey in this case, and the friction has worn off the paint in the center where the rubber faced friction wheel rides most of the time.  That drive plate has a V-belt that comes off the engine to make it rotate and supply the power to move the snowblower.  Those sprockets with the gears and the chains are just how the friction wheel carries the power to the wheels on this machine.

The speed lever simply runs a cable that makes the rubber faced friction wheel ride across the drive plate,(on that well greased hexagonal shaft on which the rubber faced wheel rides) and when the cable makes the rubber ride on the opposite side of the drive plate, the machine is in reverse.  That rubber faced friction wheel and the drive plate it rides on is what passes for a transmission on these types of snowblowers.  That is all there is to them.  You can see how the width of the rubber would matter, just as how large the wheels are that transfer the engine power across this device.  Yet no one gives that as a specification for us to measure one brand versus another.

Bald tire?   Is there supposed to be a tread pattern on it? 

Ever looked at a new one?  They're supposed to be smooth like that.

Not to be rude but, much of what you post here shows your considerable lack of knowledge of the topics you bring up. 

Oh, and by the way, there are likely a thousand or more friction disk machines out there for every one of any other form of power transmission. 

So, despite your vehement opposition to friction disk drives, they're almost as popular as you are ill informed. 

AAAh, Borat, wrong as usual.  The statement I made was that it looked as it  obviously does, just Like a Bald Tire.  The friction from the contact of that 'bald tire' drives the machine, unless it hardens, breaks or is simply worn out.  When those thing occurs, as they Very Often Do, the machine makes the operator move it by using his or her brute strength to PUSH the 200 pound Plus machine because the failure of that rubber friction wheel prevents all power from the engine reaching the wheels of the snowblower.  Unlike you, I understand all too well how the mechanism I just accurately described works, and what happens when it Fails to Work.   If my advice were NOT Correct, explain why the snowblower manufacturers include changing that 'Friction Wheel' as Normal Expected Maintenance.  I made a low quality MTD Sears Craftsman snowblower work for 15 years, by becoming adept at changing this rubber faced friction wheel, and before that an Ariens for over a decade.  I traded up and no longer ever have to do that again.  Those thousands of people with the same PITA problem may wish to know that there is an alternative to paying the shop to do this job again and again, or doing it the way I did, by learning how.  

You seem obsessed with trying to convince others that you know something.  Here's a clue, that doesn't happen when you try to tell them I don't when they can see the very simple mechanism for themselves and discover that it is YOU who have no idea what You are talking about.  That's becasue most of them, are a tad brighter than you.

borat spewed the following:

NewYorker:

When you find yourself in a hole, it's best to put the shovel down.  You'll never dig your way out of it despite your efforts.  

I've forgotten more than you'll likely ever know. 

The more you post, the more you make that abundantly obvious.

Despite using a  snowblower with hydrostatic drive,  I still like the simple design of the friction drive, replacing the rubber drive wheel on occasion, it is a easy task.but this  doesn't  happen very often unless the machine is abused, or there is water or oil getting on the disc.

OK guys play nice. Have enough class to just drop it. It's a good thing I'm not a moderator here because neither one of you are on topic. I delete posts like those.

royster wrote:
True enough, but having had both, I really like the ability to shift easily into the infinitely variable speeds.

borat wrote:
The mechanism that makes a friction drive move a snowblower is so simple even I can explain it, as I did in that last post.  The rubber friction wheel looking as it obviously does in that photo, like a bald tire, seems to have inadvertently caused you some Great  & Terrible High Anxiety.  I promise you I never explained that to cause you to defend your perceieved inadequacy.  The post has nothing whatsoever to do with you, it is merely a simple explanation of how a machine works, as any normal person would see for themselves.  Your compulsive need to always sound off as , " The Expert "  can be treated, you should seek psychiatric help.  I'm sure they can provide some medication to help you. Or Perhaps Electro-Shock Therapy  will snap you back to reality.  I wish you luck in overcoming your affliction. Or maybe you just forgot to take your medication lately.  Keep that suicide Hotline number handy, just in case.  Don't make any rash decisions without your doctor.

Wow!

I'm impressed NY! 

You've gone from a  know-nothing mechanic to a know nothing psychiatrist! 

Put the shovel down!!!!

Dr_Woof wrote:

Yes, the hydrostatic is by far the best drive system,  I really would not want to go back to the friction disc

but  Just think how many thousands  of snowblowers  are working out there with the friction disc.  

Ariens are usually considered to be the best snowblower but they have never offered anything but the friction disc.