Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

LCT and Loncin are getting their names out there.  Now Toro is going with Loncin.  Ariens has LCT on all three of their Sno-Tek blowers.  Husqvarna has the new revived LCT Snow King (Tecumseh "revival") on some of their blowers.  So who's best?  Will Briggs end up putting engines only on their own Simplicity, JD, Snapper models?

We need to give them 10 years to establish a track record.

That will also give us time to forget about all the klinkers B&S, Tecumseh, and Clinton threw at us over the years.

FWIW, the Loncin on my 2011 Toro 421 has performed very well for one season.

Plenty of power and no problems whatsoever.

Had the recall done, but I never had any of the fuel leaks that many had.

Personal opinion, but I think one reason I didn't have any fuel problems is that I don't use Gasohol in anything.

CharlesW wrote:

How does anyone avoid the nanny state, Federal mandate of E10, the big disaster that it is? Don't mean to derail the thread...

manjestic wrote:

No problem avoiding E10 in Iowa.

There is no Federal mandate and Iowa hasn't made it mandatory.

They do have the state tax set-up so E10 is about 5% cheaper. I gladly pay the 5% difference for gasoline without Ethanol in it.

I also feel the 4% to 5% price difference is about equal to the reduced mileage my vehicle gets with E10.

Makes it a tradeoff economically and E10 certainly isn't benefiting the environment. The only advantage I see is getting 10% less fuel from someone that wants to kill us.

The Mythical E10 Mandate

Many people misunderstand what the country in general — and their state in particular — is required to do about ethanol in auto gasoline. First, let’s look at the BIG picture: There is no federal mandatory E10 law. Many people believe that there is, but it is not true.

There are only six states with active mandatory ethanol laws and only five of those have mandatory E10 laws. The five states with active mandatory E10 laws are, in order of implementation: Minnesota, Hawaii, Missouri, Oregon, and Florida. The state of Washington has a wimpy mandatory 2% volumetric ethanol law. Two states have mandatory E10 laws on the books that have never triggered, and probably never will, Montana and Pennsylvania, and one other state has one of those useless 2% volumetric laws on its books that has never triggered, Louisiana.

Info current as of September 2011.

Charles, How much can you send me?? We are stuck with the Ethanol mix here, major PITA. I personally haven't run either, but I hope LCT motors work better than their website.

I agree that the Chinese clones will need much more time to prove their durability.  Ten years, in my view, is not enough.  I've got inexpensive B&S and Tecumseh engines 30 years old and not showing any signs of giving up soon.  Chinese engines need at least 30 years to prove that they're as good as the engines of old.  However, if modern B&S and other domestic engines don't last as long as their older ones do, they'll be as questionable as the the Chinese engines. 

Basically the same debate: Ford Pinto vs. Yugo: who's best? ;)

Scot

sscotsman wrote:
I owned a 1999 Ford Pinto until last year.   I had 450,000 kms on it.    It had good power  but, it wasn't that easy on gas, only about 30 mpg  on the highway.  I had the valve seals replaced at 200,000 kms   Other than sparkplug changes every 50,000 kms, I had no other costs.     I once towed my neighbour's  Yugo for 100 kms , it was worn out at 10,000 kms.  

royster wrote:

I thought Ford stopped making those in the late 70's/early 80's????

pants on fire!

The Pinto was made 1971–1980.