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mml4
 
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Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Original Message Feb 5, 2005 8:17 am |
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These are the sounds issued forth from my beloved Tecumseh engines equipped with fixed Jets. I don't own one but my friend does on a machine I recomended and he constantly rags me about it. In an effort to get him off my back I have researched the following and these are the results: 1) The replacement carb for a medium frame Tecumseh is 632334A ( this is a part # that replaces a disontinued part but the blow up diagram of the replacement shows an adjustable main jet. Therefore I ASSUME it is adjustable. 2) The carburetor repair kit for this model is 632347 I was able to secure a blowup diagram of this carb and the list of parts in the repair kit. It APPEARS all of the main jet parts are present in the kit.I NEED VERIFICATION If this includes the needle and the jet. If one were to remove the fixed jet from the current carb which I believe is the green plastic tube held in by O-rings and replace it with the adjustable jet and needle from the #632347 repair kit would it work? Could you retrofit the new bowl with the adjustable assembly or would you have to buy a new bowl? If anybody could verify or correct my assumptions I would be most appreciative. Marc Just for the record -theHonda GX series engine on my power washer made the same spit, sputter,cough,blemph sounds due to it's fixed jet carb. Honda has addressed this problem by producing a line of altitude related jets. Another words if you want to richen up a Honda fixed jet carb parts are available. The carb will still be fixed jet but at a richer setting.
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snowshoveler
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #25 Feb 10, 2005 7:53 pm |
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hey Richie. once you get the hang of all those carbs . you will need to make sure all the ope in your neighborhood is working good. once you have that done then you are going to have to come north ...i have a workbench with your name on it. later chris
craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks husky 372xpg chainsaw sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw mondo trimmer monster tractor with trailer cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree
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Richie
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #26 Feb 10, 2005 9:10 pm |
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hey Richie. once you have that done then you are going to have to come north ...i have a workbench with your name on it. later chris
Chris,
You have a great job keeping OPE working at their best. Nothing would make me happier than to work on these great machines, especially if I'm allowed to tweak  Thank you.
Richie
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snowshoveler
tides in dirts out surfs up
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #27 Feb 11, 2005 8:03 pm |
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hi Richie ... you tweak all you want...we will pay extra for that. i think your clean spot on the bench just got some work put on it. are you on your way yet. our update courses start soon and you might as well come with us to them. later chris
craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks husky 372xpg chainsaw sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw mondo trimmer monster tractor with trailer cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree
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Ben07
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #29 Feb 11, 2005 11:16 pm |
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Richie , hold out for a paid lunch break, cause I can see you ain't gonn take one anyhow. too busy tweaking.. Regards Dude Ben07
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Richie
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #30 Feb 12, 2005 9:22 am |
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Richie , hold out for a paid lunch break, cause I can see you ain't gonn take one anyhow. too busy tweaking.. Regards Dude Hi there Ben, You may be correct, but Chris said they pay extra for tweaking. So I'll look at it as a wash I figured I might be able to pick at Chris's food while he is busy studying the Microfiche cards trying to answer all our HP/torque questions. See, I have it all figured out.
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Ben07
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #31 Feb 12, 2005 12:41 pm |
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Hi there Ben,
I figured I might be able to pick at Chris's food while he is busy studying the Microfiche cards trying to answer all our HP/torque questions. .
Yeah Chris thanks for doing that I appreciate it. (it's a guy thing, by the way are girls allowed to run SB) na !!!
(powder-puff Snow blowin, don sound right) anonymous
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Ariens 8524LE, Toro CCR2000, Jacobsen S-B S-blowers, Generac 10hp Gen-convt. to N.G., 5 L-boys(D's F's &Dura( 74,77,80,88,00), Antiq. 1960 AYP 20 in. mag w 3.5 Tech mower. Ryan/Ryobi gas Trim. AYP 205 gas blwr. Mac c-saw,Toro E-blwr, 2 Weed-E e. stg. trims. outboards, boats, util trail, 2 Jeeps
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Ben07
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #32 Feb 12, 2005 3:33 pm |
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Richie Chris while you are on the HP carb thing, why the He-- does my Tech on my ariens claim it is 8.5 hp. I went into Tech. sites last year and could find nothing. it has a model number the same as the standard snow king 8 hp. Ariens specs say 8.5 but no marking on the engine .. Model 8524 in this case is synonimous with 8.5hp with a 24 inch width snow box. (i know u know that but for someone unfamiliar, figured I would make it clearer. Ben07 P.s. Richie, no you cannot trade me carbs. by the way looked at a toro think it was an 82?le, might be diff than yours, (i can't look to long, I get attached) 750 on sale HD. quite impressive machine (that joy stick worked well, couldn,t find any of those traction unlock things though, but i was only there for a sec.
This message was modified Feb 12, 2005 by Ben07
Ariens 8524LE, Toro CCR2000, Jacobsen S-B S-blowers, Generac 10hp Gen-convt. to N.G., 5 L-boys(D's F's &Dura( 74,77,80,88,00), Antiq. 1960 AYP 20 in. mag w 3.5 Tech mower. Ryan/Ryobi gas Trim. AYP 205 gas blwr. Mac c-saw,Toro E-blwr, 2 Weed-E e. stg. trims. outboards, boats, util trail, 2 Jeeps
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #33 Feb 13, 2005 4:46 pm |
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Richie Chris while you are on the HP carb thing, why the He-- does my Tech on my ariens claim it is 8.5 hp. I went into Tech. sites last year and could find nothing. it has a model number the same as the standard snow king 8 hp. Ariens specs say 8.5 but no marking on the engine .. Model 8524 in this case is synonimous with 8.5hp with a 24 inch width snow box. (i know u know that but for someone unfamiliar, figured I would make it clearer. Ben07 P.s. Richie, no you cannot trade me carbs. by the way looked at a toro think it was an 82?le, might be diff than yours, (i can't look to long, I get attached) 750 on sale HD. quite impressive machine (that joy stick worked well, couldn,t find any of those traction unlock things though, but i was only there for a sec.
Hi Ben,
Your question regarding your Tecumseh engine is basically the same I had when doing research on my engine. All OPE engine ratings are all fudged and you can't take them at face value. If you look at the power curve charts on these engines, you'll notice none run close to their maximum HP rated RPM. Even my engine was 300 RPM's below it. Depending on the RPM the factory sets the engine at, impacts on the actual HP it delivers. There is usually a low side and a high side that would be considered operating RPM for any given engine, and the difference can easily be 300 RPM's. If you look at the power charts, this RPM variation can easily equal 3/4 in either direction or more. I actually have a Brigg's & Stratton 8.5 HP engine on my Chipper/Shredder. I can tell you that this engine screams when run at operating RPM. When the weather warms up a bit, I'm going to tach it and see how fast they have it running at. I can tell you one thing, my ears never lie and it is running way higher than 3,300 RPM's. If I'm not mistaken, I've learned that Briggs & Stratton is involved in a class action lawsuit because of this engine rating practice. In fact, if I was able to find someone that could Dyno my Tecumseh engine and was able to prove my engine isn't putting out what it should, I would go right to an attorney about it. Contacting the engine manufacturers only seemed to raise more questions than it answered. Believe me, there is a dirty little secret going on behind the scene not only with the engine companies, but with the OPE manufacturers that place them on their equipment.
Richie
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Re: Spit, Sputter, Cough,Blemph
Reply #34 Feb 13, 2005 5:00 pm |
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 Richie,  You remind me of what a good knife is!! You go right to the heart and your "SHARP" ! ! I think the OPE makers on HP are blowing smoke also!!! Fred 
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