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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Original Message   Dec 2, 2011 7:14 pm
One guy from MSP area is selling his 15 year old HS621 (the guy from Wayzata MN who hates HomeDepot and GC engines) for $450.  Another one is selling his one year old HS520 for $400 with one year remaining on the warranty.  HS621 is a nice machine but is it really worth more than nearly new HS520?  Replacement parts for HS520 is about 50% of the cost of HS621. What do I recommend for a friend?  I think the HS621 from that guy is simply way too high (if it were as good as aa335 then it is a different story).  HS520 seems like an economical option.  What do you guys think?
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FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #36   Dec 8, 2011 6:28 am
MN_Runner wrote:
So where is the party?  aa335 HS621 vs. Frank_MA HS621?  or blumonster HS621 vs. aa335 and Frank_MA?

No snow, only rain... Still not cold either and it looks like mild weather for the next week or so.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
FullThrottle


Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 17

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #37   Dec 8, 2011 2:10 pm
aa335 wrote:
My HS621 S/N is SZAN-10356xx.  It was bought in 1998, but not sure of the production date, maybe 1997. 

I really like the look too.  It is sleek, Honda managed to wrap up the engine completely inside the housing with nothing sticking out and not looking bloated like the Toro 621, or sloppy looking like the B&S variants of the Simplicity / Snapper / Ariens 208cc single stage snowblowers. 
Heres what I found for production dates for U. S. market  HS621. Pull start models
1992   Ser #  1000001-1038238      
1993   Ser #  1038239-1099999
1994   Ser #  1100001-1129999
1995   Ser #  1130001-1130378
1996   Ser #  1130379- not many but some are listed as 96's
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #38   Dec 9, 2011 11:38 am
That doesn't seem right.  I have one with S/N beginning with 10356xx which I bought in 1998.  It seems unlikely a 1992 production unit sat around 6 years until it is sold.
This message was modified Dec 9, 2011 by aa335
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #39   Dec 9, 2011 3:43 pm
Here's some photos of the single stage herd. The HS621 I got last spring and the HS520 are going on CL shortly. The keeper HS621 is the one in the middle.

Here's the HS621 I'll be selling off.

Here's the HS520 I've been disappointed with.



Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #40   Dec 9, 2011 4:11 pm
Here's a few of the keeper HS621.



Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #41   Dec 9, 2011 4:22 pm
Did you swap all the good parts to the keeper HS621? 
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #42   Dec 9, 2011 4:48 pm
aa335 wrote:
Did you swap all the good parts to the keeper HS621? 

Of course! I had just replaced the paddles and scrapper on the old one so I swapped those out first. The ones that were on the keeper were not bad and still had plenty of meat left on them and the scrapper bar was good as well. Both the HS621 & HS520 are in good shape and run well. The keeper HS621 is just in much better condition than the other one as it was a one owner machine and was well cared for and maintained.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #43   Dec 9, 2011 6:46 pm
Yeah, yeah, nice machines......

WTF is all that wood about?  You selling it?   That's quite a supply. 

You do your own splitting?  If so, what do you use? 
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #44   Dec 9, 2011 10:55 pm
borat wrote:
Yeah, yeah, nice machines......

WTF is all that wood about?  You selling it?   That's quite a supply. 

You do your own splitting?  If so, what do you use? 

I heat my home with wood (close to 100% of the time). It's about 50/50 between buying cut/split/delivered and doing it on my own.  I use a Fiskars X series splitting axe which is really nice and does a great job - best splitting axe I ever used. I've thought about getting grapple loads of wood but barely have enough time to process what I have already. I go through about 4+ cord per winter -  I have over 7 cord racked for this winter and some for next. It never ends...

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Would you buy 1 year old HS520 for $400 or 15 year old 621 for $450?
Reply #45   Dec 10, 2011 9:44 am
That's quite a supply. 

We have a couple zero clearance wood fireplaces in our home that we use primarily for ambiance or emergency heat.

We also heat our cottage with wood and put up maybe a cord or two a year.  Don't go out much in the winter anymore so, don't use as much as we used to.  I generally cut and split my own.  I used a splitting maul for 30 years but some of the wood was murder to split by hand. 

Most of the wood I get is blow down so I have no control over the size of the trees.  I've had trees over 30" across and knotty as hell.  Wicked stuff to split by hand.  Earlier this year we had a wind event that knocked down some nice aspen trees approx. 16" to 18" in diameter.   So I bucked up a few trailer loads.  Splitting wet poplar that size in summer by hand is almost futile.  The axe literally bounces out of the wood and sometimes water spurts out of it.  Dried poplar is just as bad but opposite.  The wood is very reluctant to split and the axe gets stuck in the piece.  I had a stack of large dried stuff from last year that I just gave up on and with the new supply, I decided it was time to get a log splitter so I picked up a used one in excellent shape for a very good price.  It's a gas powered 24 ton North Star.  I split all of that difficult wood in an hour or less then split a bunch for my neighbour.  

When I think of all the time I spent flogging myself senseless splitting difficult wood, I have to wonder what I was thinking when a log splitter would cut my labour by 90%.  It's so easy that I actually look forward to splitting wood!   Even the wife gets in on the act.  I do the loading, she works the splitter.  The benefits aren't just split wood.  I don't spend the whole day swinging an eight pound maul so I can spend more time fishing/hunting/relaxing and I don't wake up the next day feeling like I spent the night tumbling in a cement mixer.     
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