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OmFlyer


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John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Original Message   Dec 3, 2011 7:29 pm
Well I've spent a lot of time researching new blowers and came very close to bring home the JD 1330se today but got cold feet after reading about the slipping drive issues. I'd be very interested to hear any long term reviews on this unit as it appears unchanged since 2010. I do have a JD dealer 10 miles from home so prep and support should be better than a Lowes units? Also if there is another blower 30ish inches I should consider please let me know. I live in northern MI with a 150' drive see a fair amount of snow. I dont mind paying a premium for quality if it makes for years of trouble free operation. Thanks for your input
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #36   Dec 6, 2011 10:21 am
Northwestern Ontario, Lakehead area.
coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #37   Dec 11, 2011 5:26 am
OmFlyer wrote:
Based on the recommendations the Ariens Pro 28 seems excellent, but back ordered around here at the moment. Dr Woof and Others, Do you feel the poor performance issue with the Deere 1330 was attributed to the Easy-Steer feature? I'm wondering if the similar Snapper/Simplicity models without the Hillard Auto-lok would have the same control issues? If the tried and true trigger release works on the Snapper/Simplicity this still may be a viable option.

borat wrote:
You have to ensure the Easy Steer mechanism is fully engaged or disengaged when using it.  I use the easy steer function only to move the machine around.  Never when actually working.  After disengaging the drive to maneuver the machine you have to ensure that it fully re-engages before going back to throwing snow.  If used properly, it works well and the machine is no more difficult to manage than any other machine that has both wheels driving when moving snow.  What's important is to ensure the drive engagement mechanism has the proper lubrication.  Too thick of a grease will either slow the re-engagement or not allow it to engage at all in real cold weather.  I've got grease on mine and I'm going to be cleaning it off and will be trying motor oil.  That's what's recommended for lubing the shaft that the friction wheel slides across.  Considering that the easy steer operates in a similar manner, oil should be fine there as well. 

                                                                  
For those who don't know, here are some photos of the John Deere and Simplicity snow blower catalogs that illustrate the similar terminology for turning features.  I thought maybe someone would find it enlightening.


                          Here's the the John Deere 1330SE "Easy Steer" feature from their printed 2011-2012 snow blower catalog:
                   
It's the Hilliard Auto-Lok differential.  Both wheels have power                                   From the specifications chart.  Bottom of photo.
as the operator turns either left or right.  Obviously, the outer
wheel turns faster as compared to the inside wheel.  No
triggers, no engaging and disengaging.

As scopes01 has already mentioned in reply #6 above, the John Deere method of utilizing the Hilliard system is different from how Ariens utilizes it.


          Here's the Simplicity set-up, called "Easy Turn".   This is from the 2008 (left) and 2011 (right) printed snow blower catalogs:                           
   
Not a two-wheel differential; locked two-wheel drive until operator decides to pull the left         From the specifications chart.  At bottom of photo.
trigger for the above effect.               


Having seen both brands of snow blowers at dealers, I prefer the overall build, look and feel of the Simplicity models, except I distrust the electric chute functions that both brands now employ on certain models.  I think the straight-forward mechanical controls are more trustworthy.
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borat


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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #38   Dec 11, 2011 9:31 am
Good clarification.

My machine has Easy Turn.  I only use it to disengage one wheel to make turning easier.  I never try to move snow with one wheel driving.  Just doesn't make sense to do so.  What I found with my Easy Turn system is that too much of the wrong type of grease will cause the engagement mechanism to resist separation and make it very difficult to get it into one wheel drive.  I have since cleaned the grease off and now use oil to lubricate it. 
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #39   Dec 11, 2011 9:55 am
Dr_Woof wrote:
Nice pics!  Its in Minnesota?  Thats my daughter with the cougar.  Part of her job was tracking them - says there are a LOT more of them around then most people think - they just keep a low profle.  Usually.  But......every now and then.....a jogger does go missing.


A jogger maybe a good or reasonable meal but a runner is too boney to make a decent meal for the cougar. It might not even taste all that great.
Stainless


Joined: Nov 17, 2011
Points: 24

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #40   Dec 11, 2011 10:41 am
With a trigger release, does it only provide a dramatic improvement in turning ease for one direction?  If the left wheel is released, I guess turning left would be quite a bit easier than turning right?
borat


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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #41   Dec 11, 2011 10:46 am
Stainless wrote:
With a trigger release, does it only provide a dramatic improvement in turning ease for one direction?  If the left wheel is released, I guess turning left would be quite a bit easier than turning right?

With one wheel disengaged, it turns easily in both directions.
Stainless


Joined: Nov 17, 2011
Points: 24

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #42   Dec 11, 2011 10:48 am
borat wrote:
With one wheel disengaged, it turns easily in both directions.


If the left wheel is disengaged, it would seem to me that turning left would be easier than turning right.  When you're turning right, the right wheel is still receiving power, correct?
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #43   Dec 11, 2011 11:33 am
I looked at machines at HomeDepot with the one release trigger on the left side.  I never operated one of these but apparently it just releases power to the left side.    My Husqvarna and many other makes use a trigger on each side, which enables gradual turns or zero radus turns , the same in either direction.

hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
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Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #44   Dec 11, 2011 12:33 pm
I have a snapper 1132 which is a 2005 series machine with trigger release on the left. Even though it only releases one side it still turns either way easily

scopes01


Location: Montreal, CANADA
Joined: Nov 27, 2011
Points: 22

Re: John Deere 1330 long term review or NEW Recommendation
Reply #45   Dec 11, 2011 1:05 pm
Hi guys...here is a picture below of a Hilliard Auto Lok system on an Ariens 1130DLE 921003...as you can see the axle drive is driven by a spur gear and pinion and not by a sprocket and chain system like the John Deere picture above. The spur gear is mounted on the Hilliard Auto-Lok system as you can see in the picture. This system is far more superior and easier to work with. It will keep the traction of your blower going in a straight line compared to John Deere's "Easy Steer". This picture was taken from a previous post from "goofienewfie" in Dec 2008. This differentail is similiar to the Ariens Pro 28,32, 32 & Platinum Series machines.

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