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bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
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Does HP Matter?
Original Message   Nov 7, 2011 7:02 pm
I have a 15 year old Ariens . ST 924. It came with a 8 hp Techumseh. I'm planning to retiring the engine .  Which is better  a Subaru Robin sx30  with 9.5 hp 4000 rpm max , a Honda GX 390. or a 305 Briggs?  The Subaru does not give me as much  HP as the Honda, but I get more rpm. If i put Clarences kit on my unit then is will be even better. The Briggs is the cheapest , but I do not really know its power output They only tell me 305 cc and 13.5 lbs of torque. My Techunseh is a 318 cc so I guess the 305 Briggs is close to 8 HP. I prefer 12 volt electric start. The biggest Briggs is there 342 16.5 I was considering that one too.
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Does HP Matter?
Reply #20   Nov 14, 2011 5:18 pm
bus708 wrote:
I get 20 rpm full load   1800 x 20/ 5252= 6.8 hp    at 1 rpm stall speed i get  .34  hp which is nothing
You say your wrench is rated at 1800 ft. lbs. -- but at what RPM? You have to know the rated torque at RPM to determine HP. I suspect that 1800 is stall speed torque.
HP doesn't drive torque, it's the other way around.

BTW, 1/3 HP isn't nothing, look at the rating of the motor in your drill press. Nothing compared to an auto engine, yes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower#Relationship_with_torque
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Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
royster


" It is the use of power tools that separates man from animals"

Location: New Brunswick, Canada
Joined: Feb 11, 2011
Points: 284

Re: Does HP Matter?
Reply #21   Nov 17, 2011 5:15 pm
  Referring to cars, Dan Gurney  said :  "   If 200 horsepower was good and 300 horsepower was too much, then 400 horsepower would be about right. "

My   Chrysler  300c  SRT8 is rated at 425  horsepower and it is about right.

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New_Yorker


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Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Nov 26, 2010
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Re: Does HP Matter?
Reply #22   Nov 18, 2011 8:21 pm
The Tecumseh 9 HP was not as powerful as a Honda GX 270 which comes in about 8.5 HP.  IF the friction wheel and drive plate can be made to transfer the power and not slip from 15 years of wear, this would be a wise choice.  The problem is the 15 years will have taken their toll on the friction wheel, and the drive plate making that unlikely at best.   The power is useless if it doesn't transfer to the wheels, that is what you need to concentrate on after 15 years.
carlb


Joined: Nov 16, 2010
Points: 279

Re: Does HP Matter?
Reply #23   Nov 19, 2011 9:41 am
New_Yorker wrote:
The Tecumseh 9 HP was not as powerful as a Honda GX 270 which comes in about 8.5 HP.  IF the friction wheel and drive plate can be made to transfer the power and not slip from 15 years of wear, this would be a wise choice.  The problem is the 15 years will have taken their toll on the friction wheel, and the drive plate making that unlikely at best.   The power is useless if it doesn't transfer to the wheels, that is what you need to concentrate on after 15 years.

90% of the horsepower is used to move the snow and only about10% or less to move the machine.  If a human could push the machine into the snow that would be one person power.  The only time the drive system will see a lot of stress is if the operator tries to go to fast into too much snow.  If the operator uses the machine properly and matches the ground speed to the blowers ability to move the amount of snow in front of the blower the friction drive will see very little stress. 

If the operator goes too fast into more snow then the blower section can handle then the blower becomes a snow plow and not a snow blower. 

I put a GX340 on an old 80's Cub Cadet 8/26 that originally came with an 8hp tec flat head and it still has the original friction disk.  If you try to hold it back on dry pavement it will pull you down the driveway or if you can get a good enough grip on it it will spin the tires on dry concrete but the friction disk does not slip.

I would not have any concerns putting a gx270 in place of an 9hp tech flat head.

Carl
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