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faithfulFrank
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Another Oil Question
Original Message Feb 3, 2005 6:51 am |
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Hey Guys, At the risk of starting another heated oil thread, I just have a simple question, that should not be a a problem. For my new snowblower, the Tecumseh manual says this....... Above 32 degrees............straight 30 SAE 0 to 32 degrees..................multigrade SAE 5W30 Below 0 degrees.................Synthetic 0W30 Now for my question...........most of the time, I think I blow snow in that 0-32 degree range. Sometimes we could get a snow at night, and blow snow the next day with the sun out, and it may be above 32 degrees. Sometimes, it can get so cold here that it is below 0 for days, and you are blowing snow........(although usually when it is that cold, it does not snow.) Does 0W30 mean it has almost no lubracation in the coldest weather? I either plan on using synthetic 5W30 or 0W30, but am not sure which I should really use. Perhaps I am over thinking this, because I know guys who always use just regular straight 30 with no problems. Synthetic 5W30 has to be better then that, and I'd say that it is in that range (0-32 degrees) that most of the blowing occurs. Does using 0W30 just give me a wider range of protection, or could it be too thin sometimes since it is sometimes zero weight..( a concept I cannot grasp....how can a oil be zero weight, it would be like water.....??) What do you guys suggest......?? Hard to believe we have gotten so little snow that until this week, I am still on the break-in oil..........well, off to work. thanks, Frank D.
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Marshall
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Re: Another Oil Question
Reply #2 Feb 3, 2005 9:20 am |
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Hey Guys, At the risk of starting another heated oil thread, I just have a simple question, that should not be a a problem.
For my new snowblower, the Tecumseh manual says this.......
Above 32 degrees............straight 30 SAE 0 to 32 degrees..................multigrade SAE 5W30 Below 0 degrees.................Synthetic 0W30
Now for my question...........most of the time, I think I blow snow in that 0-32 degree range. Sometimes we could get a snow at night, and blow snow the next day with the sun out, and it may be above 32 degrees. Sometimes, it can get so cold here that it is below 0 for days, and you are blowing snow........(although usually when it is that cold, it does not snow.)
Does 0W30 mean it has almost no lubracation in the coldest weather? I either plan on using synthetic 5W30 or 0W30, but am not sure which I should really use. Perhaps I am over thinking this, because I know guys who always use just regular straight 30 with no problems.
Synthetic 5W30 has to be better then that, and I'd say that it is in that range (0-32 degrees) that most of the blowing occurs. Does using 0W30 just give me a wider range of protection, or could it be too thin sometimes since it is sometimes zero weight..( a concept I cannot grasp....how can a oil be zero weight, it would be like water.....??)
What do you guys suggest......??
Hard to believe we have gotten so little snow that until this week, I am still on the break-in oil..........well, off to work.
thanks,
Frank D. Just run the 5W 30 full synthetic and you'll be fine.
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Re: Another Oil Question
Reply #4 Feb 3, 2005 9:53 am |
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5w30 Synthetic. Marc
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Jonathan
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Re: Another Oil Question
Reply #5 Feb 3, 2005 9:56 am |
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Frank, I like you looked at the Tecumseh oil spec chart. As I have been hearing good things about synthetic I decided to go that route. For synthetic, the chart only specifies 0W-30 or a Tecumseh oil which is also 0W-30, for temperatures ranging from about –30F to +40F. I have about 8 hours with Mobil 1 0W-30 with no problems so far. I’m keeping close tabs on the oil level. I keep the blower in a garage which has some minimal heat-ranges from 35-40 F. Jonathan
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Blue9R
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Re: Another Oil Question
Reply #8 Feb 3, 2005 12:53 pm |
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Hi Frank, 0W (read zero "dub ya") and 5W (read five "dub ya") are the cold flow ratings for two different grades of a SAE 30 multi-viscosity oil. The "W" actually stands for Winter and this rating is necessary, due to the property of an oil getting thicker with colder temperatures. A 0W oil meets a max cold flow rating of 6200 centipoise at -35C (-29F) per the SAE J300 guidelines. A 5W oil meets a max cold flow rating of 6600 centipoise at -30C ( -20F). So a 0W -30 rated oil is going to have better cold flow characteristics than a 5W-30 at extreme, below zero, temperatures. However, to be practical, M1 0W-30 & M1 5W-30 have very similar viscosities from normal engine operating temps down to about 0 degrees F , where the 5W starts to get thicker at a faster rate.
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faithfulFrank
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Re: Another Oil Question
Reply #11 Feb 3, 2005 5:26 pm |
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Thanks guys for the info so far......... I know most of you are far more knowledgeable about oil than I. Yes Marshall, you are right in that I'l never run this in the summer........ I was basically asking under my conditions, should I pick Mobil 1 0W30 or Mobil 1 5W30......... Respectfully, Frank D.
Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230 Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
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