Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Many of you know I have been throwing the idea around of either selling my Toro 826OXE or having an 11hp from the 1128OXE installed. Anyway I had it up for sale but people wanted to pay like 600 bucks! Mind you I paid nearly 1600 less then 10 months ago!

So with the first reports of snow falling north and west of the city I have the snow blower loaded in my fathers van ready to go to the dealer. Do I just have it serviced and continue to try and sell it (really dont want to invest more $$) or do I have them install the 11HP engine?

The dealer wants 120.00 + any parts to do the service. Now if they swap the shortblock this 120 gets washed away as they need to do an oil change, new plug, adjust belts, etc once they install the new engine block.

What do you think I should do?

stresst wrote:

The most expensive Simplicity SS922EX single stage snowblower is listed for $599.  I've seen them typically sold online for $580. 

I haven't seen $899 or higher single stage snowblower except for the Toro Snow Commander or Honda HS621.

stresst wrote:
Yes, this is the same Briggs & Stratton built unit that's badged as a Sno-tek and Snapper.  208cc, curved rotor, and with all the conveniences remote chute rotation found in the Toro 621Q.  From what I've seen, this Simplicity is quite good dealing with slush and throw snow very well.

Simplicity

Snapper

stresst wrote:

Well whatever you you decide this time be happy with your decision.

I'll still make some more videos tho.

aa335 wrote:

Yeah I noticed that late las nite, ebay has them like 650 delivered (no tax of course). Now I am wondering if they were marked wrong or are they pushing the Toro SS uits by putting a ridiculous price tag on the simplicity's??/

I was looking at the Simplicity Pro series but IMHO I hate the way they look with those handle bars........Seems like there built like a tank but look like crap! JMO

So back to SS units is the top of the line 621 (forget all the p/n's) or the Simplicity the way to go?? If the Toro had the larger engine I wouldnt even think twice......

aa335 wrote:

I will tell you what a 208cc engine on a SS unit has to have some power to weight ratio!!! There are some two stage units that weigh 200+lbs that have a 208cc engine and nevermind a 150+ weight differance some of the power gets used up propelling the wheels! The snapper/simplicity must be like a tracked honda of SS units!

stresst wrote:
I think you should get it, it has the largest engine for a single stage from the factory.  The Toro is very good even with just a 163cc 4-stroke engine, 208cc is just even better.

With that said, I'm not sure if you are aware of this little know fact.  The Toro 621 is designed on a platform that can accomodate either a 2 stroke and 4-stroke engine.  The cowling is bloated, and that's not by mistake.  It's seems it can fit 208cc or larger size engine.  I wouldn't be surprised that a 250cc may find it's way in there. 

But you know Toro is not going to play that game.  They're already successful enough with their smaller engines. The last time they built a super single, it was too heavy and expensive, 125 lbs. 

aa335 wrote:

So your telling me I should take the 250cc from my Toro 826OXE and install in the 621 that I didnt buy yet? Great idea! Thanks! LOL

I would prefer to get the Toro SS being they match perfectly but the Simplicity SS looks so much more "beefier", nevermind it has a halogen light and fuel guage! Gonna be a hard decision!

stresst wrote:
Gizmos don't move snow.

Why don't you just tune it up YOURSELF. Check your belts or replace them YOURSELF.  Change your own oil.  Replace your own spark plug.  You will save allot of money.  If you are willing to spend $120, you can Replace all your belts. change your oil , replace your spark plug. And install clarence's impeller kit for less money.  It is not hard to do at all .  I'm sure everyone here can help you if you get stuck.  There are many u-tube videos too  It may take you 2 hours tops. Why give your money to the snow blower man.  You know how it ran last year. If you do the above i'm sure you will be impressed . You will be proud of yourself too .

stresst wrote:
I can't say for sure that the engine in your Toro 2 stage will fit in a single stage.  Give it a go, do an engine swap. 

But perhaps a Honda GX200 or GX240 would fit, these are nice compact engines.   Not cheap though.

I never found the power on the Toro 421QE (or 621QZE) to be lacking.  It even surprised me how gutsy it is.  If anything, I would like it to be smoother and quieter.   Sure, more power would be nice, but that just upsets the balance of the machine.  More noise, more vibrations, skittish behavior, no thanks.

When it's too much for the SS, then I bring out the 2 stage.  Pick the right tool for the job and it's so much more enjoyable.  I'm not into modifying anymore.  Just don't have the time.