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jubol
Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558
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MTD Snow Blowers
Original Message Jan 28, 2005 4:48 pm |
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How many of you folks out there with MTD snowblowers, have had problems, or no problems? Let's count and see how :"Junky MTD" does !!, compared to Ariens great QC ! ! ! Fred
This message was modified Jan 28, 2005 by jubol
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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SnowRemover
Toro 828LXE
Location: Near Albany, NY
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Points: 139
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #21 Jan 31, 2005 10:11 am |
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Did it ever accure to you that the the people that buy the cheaper machines are more prone to be the type that just waltz into a store and buy something without spending time on the internet looking, shopping and comparing?
Likewise the type that come to the internet and spend time looking, shopping and comparing are probably more concerned about the purchase they make? Yes, this did occur to me. But Ariens is not the only maker of premium machines. I admit that due to price, Honda's are seldom mentioned here, but Honda's are about as premium as you get, yet I see zero posts from Honda's having problems (I mean newer Honda's, not 15 year old models). Toro's are comparible to Ariens pricing, and they sell more snow blowers than Ariens (admittedly Toro's numbers are boosted by their huge market share on the single-stage market), yet again, I see few Toro posting for relatively new machines. Simplicity and Husqvarna seem to have a low market share, but I just can't find exact numbers on that, so I'm going buy number of dealers I can find and the lack of much Internet sites where people post about them.
--SnowRemover
It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them! --Friedrich Nietzsche
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terrapin24h
The more I learn the less i know
Location: Rochester NY, USA
Joined: Dec 18, 2003
Points: 628
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #22 Jan 31, 2005 10:42 am |
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I have nothing against anyone posting here, so the following is not a dig at the originator of the topic, but why is the topic " Boy, i wish there was some more snow..... :)" productive, and this one is not? At least here I found out about some old MTD's and heard about their build quality. Over on that topic, it was just people wishing for more snow. I chose not to read that topic after the first two posts because it wasn't productive for me. But for others, it could be a very productive use of their time. Everyone is different, so let the readers decide. Damn - there's my libertarian side coming out again " Live and let live". --SnowRemover "The King is dead, long live the King" OK, that's it. I've tried really hard to tolerate your pig-logic formed opinions, but now you've mis-represented ME. And i will NOT tolerate it. Why don't you ACTUALLY READ that thread, you'll see it's actually a highly detailed performance report , written specifically to detail (in a hopefully entertaining manner) the experiences I had using my snowblower during the last noreaster that we got. Not only is it topically relevant, but there's a lesson or two to be learned in that thread for newbies and old hats alike. READ -- THINK -- WRITE. If you mis represent ME again, I WILL formally move to have you BANNED from the forum. Spout all the sh!t you want based on your own garbage, but don't you DARE try to implicate other people, you 'nob. BTW, there is also a refernce in my post in that thread to MTD snowblowers, and in the WTB archives i have made numerous posts detailing the failures of neighbors' mtd made machines last year(for half the winter, i was doing 3 drives with my "lowly" ariens, while the mtd's sat in pieces). Fred, I thought better of you than to start a libelous thread like this.
This message was modified Jan 31, 2005 by terrapin24h
--chris 2001 Homelite VacAttack Blower 2001 6hp Toro PPace 22" mower 2001 Ariens 824LE 2002 6hp 2400 PSI Excell Powerwasher 2004 18hp Craftsman 27375 42" mower 2004 42cc Craftsman 18" chainsaw
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SnowRemover
Toro 828LXE
Location: Near Albany, NY
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Points: 139
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #23 Jan 31, 2005 10:49 am |
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Terrapin, I thought I made it clear that while that topic didn't interest me, I also said " But for others, it could be a very productive use of their time." I also stated this "is not a dig at the originator of the topic"
I apologize for not making myself clearer, but the point of my post was to make the point that the readers should decide what is productive and what is not. Once again, my apologies, --SnowRemover
It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them! --Friedrich Nietzsche
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jubol
Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #25 Feb 1, 2005 6:35 pm |
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TP, What is libelous about calling MTD blowers junk and Ariens having high quality QC???????????? Do you know what " Libel" means in the legal world?? I resent your statement!!!! Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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ChrisS
Appreciate what you have already been blessed with.
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 2793
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #26 Feb 1, 2005 6:47 pm |
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I am not picking sides here. That said, Fred with all due respect this thread from the beginning had the potential to cause conflict. Now that it has as the originator you need to deal with that. C
Honda 928TA, Ariens 924 STE, Toro single stage S-620, 95 Jeep Wrangler with a 6 foot Fisher Plow, many shovels, one 14 year old boy. Craftsman 01 1000 LTX pimp Gold LT 20hp Briggs OHV V-twin. Tough as it is ugly.
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Dave___in___CT
Deliberate often... ...decide once...
Location: West-Central Connecticut
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 3159
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #27 Feb 1, 2005 6:53 pm |
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Hey... Seems like a snowball fight... Hope no one gets hit in the eye ! It's should be fun here ! Remember ? Dave...
Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.Henry Ford BCS Tractor & snowblower
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jubol
Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #28 Feb 1, 2005 6:57 pm |
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Chris S, What are Forums for??? On this forum, if you can call it that, any more. Ariens and Toro comments can say anything that goes, no matter what there problems are ,but dare not to bad mouth them! Mention MTD , Aiens and toro in the same sentance and a "HOLY WAR ERRUPTS"!!!!! My question to this forum, Is Ariens buying advertising time here?? Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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terrapin24h
The more I learn the less i know
Location: Rochester NY, USA
Joined: Dec 18, 2003
Points: 628
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Re: MTD Snow Blowers
Reply #30 Feb 1, 2005 9:29 pm |
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Fred- based on what you've written about ariens in other threads(I think in one or two you've resorted to out and out bashing), and the *tone* of your post at the outset of this thread, i'm getting a strong vibe from you that you are (albeit latently) implying that mtd's have a longevity/reliability equal to or better than that of the "big A" (having lawyers in the family i know that libel does not have to be direct but rather it can be implied- just cuz you don't write it don't mean you don't say it). After digging out two drive ways for over half a winter(in addition to my own plus my yard) last year that were *supposed* to be cleared by mtd's that had big problems, i can say without hesitation that you couldn't be more incorrect. I even had the pleasure of trying to operate one of those things, and couldn't be more unimpressed. It had no torque to the wheels, the controls were both flimsy and clumsy compared to mine, and there was this great grinding sound coming out of the auger gearbox- despite the fact that proper shear pins(factory in fact) were installed. The fact that they get the money they do for them stuns me. I have seen them break in the conditions that my ariens(and i don't even have a high end ariens) revels in, even prior to getting the r3 drive- do you realize it took well over two years for my r3 problem to appear? I would bet the disc in an mtd(or the belts for that matter) would be worn worse in the same time, I am sure in the evironment in which you use your machine it works great and probably always will, but I also know that a storm up here like the one we had a couple weeks back can easily break the back of an mtd, cause i have seen it happen not once, not twice, but 3 times in the last 12 months, and that's on my street alone. I won't for a second argue or debate that we seem to be seeing a larger than preferred number of nagging problems with ariens machines this year, but do a little research into the toro 3650, and see what you find. What scares me the most about your suppositions is they are based solely on empirical evidence that you derive from the board here, which in the grand scheme of things is a terribly small sampling, not to mention a horribly biased, unscientific one. All this from someone that I have always felt to a person of reason and knowledge. You may be resentful of what i write, but i'm disappointed by what you are writing.
--chris 2001 Homelite VacAttack Blower 2001 6hp Toro PPace 22" mower 2001 Ariens 824LE 2002 6hp 2400 PSI Excell Powerwasher 2004 18hp Craftsman 27375 42" mower 2004 42cc Craftsman 18" chainsaw
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