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Toro 828LXE

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Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Original Message   Jan 31, 2005 9:48 am
OK, my snowblower has a Tecumseh engine, so when I read this I thought it could be either BS, correct, or old news.

You can't go wrong with a Briggs and Stratton engine. Tecumseh engines are prone to throwing piston rods through the crankcase wall if the oil level drops at all. The Tecumseh speed control is not nearly as robust as the Briggs and Stratton either. Briggs & Stratton is now back in the snow blower engine business in a big way with overhead valve engines ranging from 6.5 through 13 horsepower. Given prices, contracts and market inertia it's anybody's guess how quickly they will regain market share. However if you shop around machines can be found with these engines.

Anyone with any knowledge care to comment?  Here's the link.
http://home.gwi.net/~spectrum/snowbuying.html


--SnowRemover
This message was modified Jan 31, 2005 by SnowRemover


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Marshall


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #19   Jan 31, 2005 9:43 pm
Hahahaha, leave it to Lint to throw in some ironic symbolism.

ps I didn't get it either , then the light bulb came on upstair.
SnowRemover


Toro 828LXE

Location: Near Albany, NY
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Points: 139

Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #20   Jan 31, 2005 9:52 pm
TheKneebiter wrote:
the moral of the story is URBAN LEGAND.

Actually this happened to my cousins sister's boyfriend.

--SnowRemover

It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
--Friedrich Nietzsche
Walt


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Location: Chester County, PA
Joined: Dec 31, 2004
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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #21   Jan 31, 2005 10:58 pm
Wouldn't your cousins sister still be your cousin?  (except in West Virginia that is, then your sister could also be your half cousin).
Emmo


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #22   Jan 31, 2005 11:51 pm
Walt wrote:
Wouldn't your cousins sister still be your cousin?  (except in West Virginia that is, then your sister could also be your half cousin).

Or your wife!
Walt


Do what you can, with what you have, where you are. -T. Roosevelt

Location: Chester County, PA
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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #23   Feb 1, 2005 12:20 am
Emmo,

Only in West Virginia!  - "The Home of the Scared Sheep State"

This message was modified Feb 1, 2005 by Walt
18Degrees


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #24   Feb 1, 2005 2:24 am
     The moral of the story.............

You can lead a Yak to water,

but you can't teach an old dog to make a silk purse out of a pig in the poke.

                                                                                                                                                      18 degrees

18 Degree driveway - 928 Honda track drive - Fertilizer spreader for dispensing salt
sawme


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #25   Feb 1, 2005 4:21 am
Emmo wrote:

Or your wife!
      
      

            Only if she has all of her teeth !!!!!!!!!!!


                   Tom  

Stihl 036/MS-55 YB /Homelite Trimmer/ Troy-Bilt Tiller/ MTD Rider/ Honda HS1132TA
Majorxlr8n


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #26   Feb 2, 2005 6:38 am
Run ANY OPE low or out of oil, regardless of the engine brand on it, and you're looking for an engine failure to occur.

Tecumseh's do have a tendency to be LESS TOLERANT to low oil conditions but they will last if you care for them.

This is a classic case of laziness/ignorance meets accountability or "saving of face". "It ain't my fault the darned thing crapped out on me - them Tekumsens are just plain JUNK!!"

Don't blame yourself, blame someone else (or blame the engine in this case).

Marty

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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #27   Feb 2, 2005 9:24 am
Majorxlr8n wrote:
Run ANY OPE low or out of oil, regardless of the engine brand on it, and you're looking for an engine failure to occur.

Tecumseh's do have a tendency to be LESS TOLERANT to low oil conditions but they will last if you care for them.

This is a classic case of laziness/ignorance meets accountability or "saving of face". "It ain't my fault the darned thing crapped out on me - them Tekumsens are just plain JUNK!!"

Don't blame yourself, blame someone else (or blame the engine in this case).

Marty


While I agree with the basic statement that you have to intelligently maintain you engines. There is a point of sensitivity to a problem where it is a design problem as well. I don't think the Tecumseh engines have passed that point, their requirements seem to be reasonbale. At the same time it is fair to say  that one engine design is more prone to a problem than another if it is true. I thought the origninal poster was asking for opinions on whether the staement was true.

Here's an example of what I mean:

Lets say that brand X engine only starts having problems if they are low on oil by more than 1 Litre ( close to 1 Qt ). while brand Y blows up if it is down by  30ml ( 1 oz). All other things being equal which would you like to own? Which do you think is a better design? Which is less prone to user error? which is less sensitive to a "low oil" condition?
Richie


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Re: Tecumseh Engines Prone to throwing Rods
Reply #28   Feb 2, 2005 9:48 am

My personal preference would be to have a Briggs engine on all my OPE only because I've used them all my life and have been satisfied with them.  Even better, like my Troy-bilt 2,500 psi pressure washer, which sports an OHV Honda engine.  Usually we purchase a piece of equipment due to features or even brand name and therefore may not have the choice of a preferred engine brand in a case like that.  The bottom line, owners must take responsibility for the care and maintenance of such equipment. 

I check engine oil religiously prior to starting any of them.  This may seem like a chore to some, I know it was for me, but if practiced regularly, it just becomes second nature.  Maybe Tecumseh engines are more sensitive, maybe they are not.  A 25 year old snowblower I used to have was Tecumseh powered and always ran great.  One can also say that perhaps everything was better made way back when, and may not have any bearing in 2005.  In many cases, that may well be true.

I look at it like this, if there is a chance my Tecumseh engine may have a sensitivity to low oil, I check it each and every time before starting it.  If that isn't a sure way to completely eliminate such claims, I don't know what would.  If you're still concerned about the engine, your only alternative would be to remove your engine, sell it, and pay the balance to re-power your favorite machine with your engine of choice.  It actually sounds like a fun project for someone that likes to tinker.  I know if my engine craps out after the warranty period, you can bet I'll re-power with my engine of choice



Richie
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