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GtWtNorth


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Ethical question +
Original Message   Feb 16, 2011 5:15 pm
OK, so I was walking the dog about a block from my house when I stumbled upon a craftsman 10.5/29 model C950-52820-0, s/n 004199   9004 in excellent condition. It was sitting at the end of the driveway with a "to give away" sign on it, also saying the the speed control didn't work.
Needless to say I wheeled it home in a flash. Popped off the bottom service cover, & low & behold, the friction disk & drive plate were covered with oil. A bit of brake cleaner & 10 minutes later everything seems to be fine.

Question 1 is should I feel guilty about keeping  the machine?

Question 2 is where can I find a manual for it (kinda answers question 1)

Cheers

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GtWtNorth


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #8   Feb 16, 2011 7:53 pm
Thanks for the replies guys. I do feel good about recycling & I guess it was meant for me. He lives around 2 corners & I don't think I've ever seen him on my street, so I don't know him other than to say hello as we cross each other once in a while. So the chances of him seeing me using it are slim. I guess if he pitched it out without even trying to fix it he has a lot more money than me, so I shouldn't feel bad about whatever I do with it.

I guess I'll probably swap out the new snow hogs that are on it, take off the 10.5 hp & put on my older 8 hp and sell it. Then I'll put them on my 924050 as soon as I can find the time to finish the painting & get her back together.

Cheers

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FrankMA


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #9   Feb 17, 2011 10:04 am
I had a simliar situation this past fall. I was coming down the street that leads to the road I live on and spotted a decent Toro CCR2000E that a neighbor placed on the side of the road with their trash. I scooped it up, brought it home and did a quickie overhaul. It was obvious that it had been left outside for a bit and appeared to have been neglected by the previous owner. A good cleaning, some sanding/paint along with fresh fuel, spark plug, fuel filter and some TLC and it was looking good again. I gave it to my sister who got a ton of use out it this winter as we have been inundated with snowstorms this season. She calls it "the little snowblower that could" and really appreciated my gift to her. I felt no remorse or breach of ethics as the previous owner decided to throw it away rather than either sell it or give it to someone who could get use from it. I enjoy rescuing OPE from the trash man and giving it a second chance at the service it was designed and built to accomplish.

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giocam


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #10   Feb 17, 2011 10:41 am
I wonder why the guy threw it out if the fix was so simple?
Maybe he had it looked at by some shady repairman who tried to take advantage of the situation and overestimated the cost of repair, and the guy figured the cost to repair wasn't worthwhile. Or maybe this was one of several issues he had with it and got sick of repairing it. Or maybe he has lots of money and just bought a new one. Could be many reasons..

But no matter what his reason, keeping it is definitely not unethical. Just for me personally I would get satisfaction out of giving it back especially if his reason for getting rid of it was because of a shady repairman estimate.
bus708


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #11   Mar 2, 2011 11:56 pm
Free your mind a be a good sport, take it back to him. You will feel better. The guy might have bought another snow blower. If you let him know you fixed it, you will not feel like you got over on the guy  anymore. Stop being a devel, be a angel. The guy you took it from has the manual.
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Paul7


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #12   Mar 3, 2011 1:03 am
GtWtNorth wrote:
OK, so I was walking the dog about a block from my house when I stumbled upon a craftsman 10.5/29 model C950-52820-0, s/n 004199   9004 in excellent condition. It was sitting at the end of the driveway with a "to give away" sign on it, also saying the the speed control didn't work.
Needless to say I wheeled it home in a flash. Popped off the bottom service cover, & low & behold, the friction disk & drive plate were covered with oil. A bit of brake cleaner & 10 minutes later everything seems to be fine.

Question 1 is should I feel guilty about keeping  the machine?

Question 2 is where can I find a manual for it (kinda answers question 1)

Cheers

If it was Royster's old machine he probably doesn't want it back.  I think that he went out and bought a new blower made by Husqvarna.  You know...the kind with the hydrostatic drive made by Hydro Gear.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Ethical question +
Reply #13   Mar 3, 2011 6:54 am
Paul7 wrote:
You know...the kind with the hydrostatic drive made by Hydro Gear.


I sure wish someone could explain how this "h-y-d-r-o-s-t-a-t-i-c" (am I saying it right?) drive works??? Perhaps someday someone will invent a drive system where you move a lever forward and the machine moves forward and when you move the lever backwards it moves backwards. It would also be nice if the farther you move the lever, the faster or slower it goes. Oh well, back to friction drive for now...

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aa335


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #14   Mar 3, 2011 1:59 pm
Paul7 wrote:
If it was Royster's old machine he probably doesn't want it back.  I think that he went out and bought a new blower made by Husqvarna.  You know...the kind with the hydrostatic drive made by Hydro Gear.



Really?  I didn't know he bought a Husqvarna, the kind with the hydrostatic drive by Hydro Gear, same as a Craftsman. 

I thought he bought a new Sno-Tek 28".

aa335


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #15   Mar 3, 2011 2:04 pm
FrankMA wrote:
I sure wish someone could explain how this "h-y-d-r-o-s-t-a-t-i-c" (am I saying it right?) drive works??? Perhaps someday someone will invent a drive system where you move a lever forward and the machine moves forward and when you move the lever backwards it moves backwards. It would also be nice if the farther you move the lever, the faster or slower it goes. Oh well, back to friction drive for now...



I'm sure if you dig hard enough, you'll find posts from 2004 from people that hasn't been active in years that has information on hydroelastic magneto emulsifier drive.  Search is your friend. 

It's quite simple actually, you just think how fast you want to go, the machine responds.  No levers, cables, nothing.  If you want it to crawl at 2.5423632 centimeter per hour, just project your thought into the hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer, and off it goes. 

There's just one catch, if you have dirty thoughts, your snowblower automatically heads towards the gutter as default safety maneuver. 

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FrankMA


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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #16   Mar 3, 2011 2:14 pm
aa335 wrote:
I'm sure if you dig hard enough, you'll find posts from 2004 from people that hasn't been active in years that has information on hydroelastic magneto emulsifier drive.  Search is your friend. 

It's quite simple actually, you just think how fast you want to go, the machine responds.  No levers, cables, nothing.  If you want it to crawl at 2.5423632 centimeter per hour, just project your thought into the hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer, and off it goes. 

There's just one catch, if you have dirty thoughts, your snowblower automatically heads towards the gutter as default safety maneuver. 



I'm not sure, but I don't think you're taking my question seriously. I don't think there is such a thing as a hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer???

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Steve_Cebu


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Points: 888

Re: Ethical question +
Reply #17   Mar 3, 2011 2:15 pm
FrankMA wrote:
I'm not sure, but I don't think you're taking my question seriously. I don't think there is such a thing as a hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer???


There is if you're from NJ.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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