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GtWtNorth
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Ethical question +
Original Message Feb 16, 2011 5:15 pm |
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OK, so I was walking the dog about a block from my house when I stumbled upon a craftsman 10.5/29 model C950-52820-0, s/n 004199 9004 in excellent condition. It was sitting at the end of the driveway with a "to give away" sign on it, also saying the the speed control didn't work. Needless to say I wheeled it home in a flash. Popped off the bottom service cover, & low & behold, the friction disk & drive plate were covered with oil. A bit of brake cleaner & 10 minutes later everything seems to be fine. Question 1 is should I feel guilty about keeping the machine? Question 2 is where can I find a manual for it (kinda answers question 1) Cheers
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FrankMA
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #13 Mar 3, 2011 6:54 am |
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You know...the kind with the hydrostatic drive made by Hydro Gear. I sure wish someone could explain how this "h-y-d-r-o-s-t-a-t-i-c" (am I saying it right?) drive works??? Perhaps someday someone will invent a drive system where you move a lever forward and the machine moves forward and when you move the lever backwards it moves backwards. It would also be nice if the farther you move the lever, the faster or slower it goes. Oh well, back to friction drive for now...
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aa335
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #15 Mar 3, 2011 2:04 pm |
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I sure wish someone could explain how this "h-y-d-r-o-s-t-a-t-i-c" (am I saying it right?) drive works??? Perhaps someday someone will invent a drive system where you move a lever forward and the machine moves forward and when you move the lever backwards it moves backwards. It would also be nice if the farther you move the lever, the faster or slower it goes. Oh well, back to friction drive for now...
I'm sure if you dig hard enough, you'll find posts from 2004 from people that hasn't been active in years that has information on hydroelastic magneto emulsifier drive. Search is your friend. 
It's quite simple actually, you just think how fast you want to go, the machine responds. No levers, cables, nothing. If you want it to crawl at 2.5423632 centimeter per hour, just project your thought into the hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer, and off it goes. There's just one catch, if you have dirty thoughts, your snowblower automatically heads towards the gutter as default safety maneuver.
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FrankMA
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #16 Mar 3, 2011 2:14 pm |
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I'm sure if you dig hard enough, you'll find posts from 2004 from people that hasn't been active in years that has information on hydroelastic magneto emulsifier drive. Search is your friend. It's quite simple actually, you just think how fast you want to go, the machine responds. No levers, cables, nothing. If you want it to crawl at 2.5423632 centimeter per hour, just project your thought into the hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer, and off it goes. There's just one catch, if you have dirty thoughts, your snowblower automatically heads towards the gutter as default safety maneuver. I'm not sure, but I don't think you're taking my question seriously. I don't think there is such a thing as a hypersuperminimacro dyslexic hypnotic transducer??? 
Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
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FrankMA
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #19 Mar 3, 2011 3:10 pm |
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Sorry FrankMA. That's what Leonard Nimoy told me on "How it Works". Well that's different - It all makes sense to me now!
Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
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samdog
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #21 Mar 4, 2011 12:29 am |
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Um well, getting back to the OP question: The first owner did not avail himself of the knowledge needed to care for his machine. Or he simply doesn't care enough to do proper maintenance. Either way, the machine had a short service life under his ownership -- entirely due to his own negligence. Some guys simply don't understand machines, neglect them and then usually complain that they are "junk". I'd bet that his lawn mower, car and appliances are in no better shape. His need to buy another snowblower is the natural consequence of his behavior. You on the other hand, have provided for yourself the knowledge and aptitude to repair the machine and now possession of a functioning snowblower is the natural consequence of your behavior. If he should see you using "his" old snowblower, he has no grievance. (If the cost is unimportant to him, he may even feel good that he has helped a neighbor.) Let's say you return the snowblower to him. The neglect cycle will begin again. If you really want to be a helpful neighbor, teach him how to maintain the machine, when you bring it back. Otherwise, he has given you the snowblower, free and clear. However, had the neighbor been a female without much direct male support (older, or single mom) then you should certainly return it, and perhaps offer to maintain it for her as well. The manual might be available on MTD's website.
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Paul7
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Re: Ethical question +
Reply #22 Mar 4, 2011 12:50 am |
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Um well, getting back to the OP question: The first owner did not avail himself of the knowledge needed to care for his machine. Or he simply doesn't care enough to do proper maintenance. Either way, the machine had a short service life under his ownership -- entirely due to his own negligence. Some guys simply don't understand machines, neglect them and then usually complain that they are "junk". I'd bet that his lawn mower, car and appliances are in no better shape. His need to buy another snowblower is the natural consequence of his behavior. You on the other hand, have provided for yourself the knowledge and aptitude to repair the machine and now possession of a functioning snowblower is the natural consequence of your behavior. If he should see you using "his" old snowblower, he has no grievance. (If the cost is unimportant to him, he may even feel good that he has helped a neighbor.) Let's say you return the snowblower to him. The neglect cycle will begin again. If you really want to be a helpful neighbor, teach him how to maintain the machine, when you bring it back. Otherwise, he has given you the snowblower, free and clear. However, had the neighbor been a female without much direct male support (older, or single mom) then you should certainly return it, and perhaps offer to maintain it for her as well. The manual might be available on MTD's website. My sister-in-law, who's the service manager at a Ford dealership in W. Pennsylvania, might disagree with your generalizations.
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