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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Original Message   Feb 1, 2011 7:20 pm
Given Situation: Engine has been fully warmed up and the throttle is set to fast.   

Scenario: My Honda snowblower surges when it comes out of the load.  If I blow the snow with the throttle at either low or medium speed then the engine does not surge when the load is light but when the throttle is set to fast, the engine will surge when the load is low or minimum.  As soon as it gets a full load, no surging.   I took the blower to the dealer today (since no snow for few days and the wait is not too long) as I felt this was not right.  I had this problem since it was brand new in Dec 2010.  I will let you know what the fix is or if this is normal.  Any similar experiences from Honda snowblower owners?

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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #26   Feb 4, 2011 10:15 pm
Yeah,  as a dealer for 12  or so years for Honda...I saw a lot of NEW carbs  (so the customer said)  with rust damage or corrosion on the aluminum tower...

"...But the other shop put a new carb on it a few months ago,  What do you mean it isn't new?"

Friiy

MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #27   Feb 4, 2011 10:28 pm
friiy,

my blower is fixed so i am fine.  do you want me to go to the dealer (waste a gallon on gas and my time) and ask them for an old carburetor so I can keep if as a momento.  even if it were true, what do you want me to do - as there was no charge to me.  should I protest at the dealer until they UNEQUIVOCALLY show me the proof. 

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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #28   Feb 4, 2011 10:34 pm
no no no....

Friiy

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #29   Feb 4, 2011 10:39 pm
If and when I bring my vehicles (don't do cars/trucks) to a repair shop for maintenance such as timing belt and pulleys, I advise them that I want to see the old parts before I pay the bill. 

Friiy's point is that, the dealer didn't do you any favours.   Had you been paying out of your pocket, you would have seen the $400.00 charge.  Dealers know they can't hoodwink the manufacturers for more money to do a particular job.  That stuff is basically flat rate for parts and time.  However, they can and probably did bill Honda for a carb/labour and likely only changed or opened up the jet in your original carb.   That way, they put in a $2.00 jet and bill Honda for the full price of a carb, pocketing that money.  It's nothing new.  Actually, I wouldn't doubt that it's pretty much common practice at a lot of dealerships.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #30   Feb 4, 2011 11:22 pm
friiy and borat,

you are correct - what do you want me to do?

tkrotchko


Location: Maryland
Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 143

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #31   Feb 5, 2011 2:52 am
MN_Runner wrote:
friiy and borat,

you are correct - what do you want me to do?



Sounds to me like folks just makin' conversation.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #32   Feb 5, 2011 9:07 am
MN_Runner wrote:
friiy and borat,

you are correct - what do you want me to do?


Keep $400.00 on hand for when the warranty expires.  
Jake08


Joined: Feb 19, 2008
Points: 7

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #33   Feb 5, 2011 10:30 am
borat wrote:
If and when I bring my vehicles (don't do cars/trucks) to a repair shop for maintenance such as timing belt and pulleys, I advise them that I want to see the old parts before I pay the bill. 



Would you know it came off your car/truck or from a box of old crap they keep in the back for people who ask to see the "old parts"?  If they slapped some timing belt on the counter, pretty sure I wouldn't know if it came off my car or  some other vehicle.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #34   Feb 5, 2011 10:38 am
Borat is a smart man.  He would mark the timing belt before he goes to the dealer so he can verified that it was changed. 
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Honda HS928 Engine Surging Between Loads
Reply #35   Feb 5, 2011 11:54 am
MN_Runner wrote:
Borat is a smart man.  He would mark the timing belt before he goes to the dealer so he can verified that it was changed. 

A few years ago "60 Minutes", I believe, did an undercover type show on auto repair shops.  If I recall they purposefully made a minor elementary mis-adjustment to the engine...and they did secretly mark parts, and had a young women take the car in.  Only like one shop out of ten said that it was just a simple adjustment.  The rest quickly did the adjustment but then went on to replace, or claim to replace, all kinds of things.  Struts, calipers, rotors, seals, exhausts, and other gismos. 

You might recall that Sears Auto paid a 20 million dollar fine to settle state filed fraud charges. 
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