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allenm
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Recall: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Original Message Jan 19, 2011 2:07 pm |
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Toro will have a recall this summer (2011) for Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589). The following problem affects models made in 2009, 2010, and 2011. Toro has learned that Ethanol (used in all gas), is deteriorating aluminum parts within the carburetor. These deteriorating parts break off inside the carburetor creating small fragments then clog areas inside the machine (ie. fuel line). Gas will leak out of the snow blower into (ie. your garage). The end result (gas leak) is similar to what happened on the Toro 180 power clear, but the problem is NOT the same. Toro is aware of the problem and said they are working on a fix to be released this summer (2011) on the Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589) snow blowers. If anyone is having a gas leak now, the current fix is only temporary.
This message was modified Jan 19, 2011 by allenm
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aa335
 
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Re: Recall: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #59 Feb 7, 2011 12:17 pm |
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That is a lot of work just to replace a sparkplug in 441Q. I wonder if 221Q is similar as well. 4 screws for the chute, 5 screws for the top cover. Seems pretty simple and straightforward to me. 3 minute job. 10mm socket and a phillips head screwdriver. Spark plug changes are once a year at most. It's only a snowblower, not a Ferrari. Sometimes looking a parts diagram or instructions may be more complicated than it actually is. My 5 year old can take it apart, the Toro, not the Ferrari. He's blessed with curiosity. :) Still working on the finesse part, he likes to rip through it fast.
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borat
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Re: Recall: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #63 Feb 7, 2011 8:18 pm |
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So you can gap the sparkplug, take the screws off, replace the sparkplug, then put the screws and schute back on in three min. That is really good and fast. Who said that? I said take the top off. I could do the whole job in under ten minutes. Gapping the plug correctly would probably take most time. Changing the plug could probably be done in five minutes if I wanted to hurry.
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Breather
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Re: Recall: Toro 421Q & 421QE (38588/38589)
Reply #66 Feb 8, 2011 3:27 pm |
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Hi, I'm new here. I found this board recently. I heard something similar to the original poster about the Toro 421. I called two local dealers here in northeast Ohio yesterday to inquire about the 421Q. I'm debating between a 221 and a 421 myself. They both said they couldn't sell what they had on the floor until they received their repair kits from Toro. They both had the same story. The aluminum parts in the carb were being "eaten" by ethanol and that the plating on the needle valve was too "thin" to handle it which was causing it to flake off and clog the carb, thus causing it to leak. The repair kit consisted of a new needle valve, seat, and fuel line. Both dealers advised me to put a fuel shutoff valve on the snowblower if I bought it, which I would do on my own anyway. Should I let these problems with the 421Q scare me away from it? I was leaning toward the 221Q but the significant other likes to do the driveway too when I'm away and has been complaining about "having another one that makes us stink from using it" and "having to mix the gas". Not like that's hard to do but she always complains about it.
This message was modified Feb 8, 2011 by Breather
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