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gdoll


Joined: Nov 18, 2010
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Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Original Message   Nov 18, 2010 3:41 pm
I live in Calgary - we get a moderate amount of snow, rarely more than 8 to 10inches at a time, usually in the 2-4" range. The issue here is snow drifts.  I live in a north facing house at the south end of a cul de sac and get drifts all the time on the bottom half of driveway.  My driveway is for a 3car garage - not super long (probably 25ft, but easily 40 ft wide. I have been reading lots about single stage throwers - i like the fact they clean to the pavement, but am concerned if they can throw the snow far enough or can chew through a foot deep snow drifts a few times a year.  The other option of course is the 2 stage throwers - they seem a bit big and I've read they don't get down to the pavement. I am also not the  most mechanically inclined individual in the world...

Help?? Any thoughts on what my best bets would be?  I need something that my wife would be comfortalbe using as well. Any comments are appreciated...

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #48   Jan 16, 2011 12:43 am
Steve_Cebu wrote:
They're so excited they're rolling in their graves.

It's not like they have anywhere to go or anything else to do. 
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #49   Jan 17, 2011 12:20 pm
aa335 wrote:
I don't think there is are any differences, not that can see from comparing to the Canadian model.  The European models have additional muffler guard and chute guards, but the running mechanicals are the same. 

MNrunner,

These video shows a HS621 in Hungaria.  Notice the additional guard for the chute and muffler.  Other than that, I don't think they changed anything else.  Is it worth the additional $ over the HS520?  Nope.  But what else is there like this?  Toro Snow Commander?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IllKHB8Cwls&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_O6g_uHAA4&feature=related
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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #50   Jan 17, 2011 12:45 pm
Thanks AA335, I have seen these video clips and HS621 is a nice machine.  The video on Toro 421Q was also pretty good.
ralphfr


Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: Jan 22, 2011
Points: 40

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #51   Jan 22, 2011 10:58 pm
With regards to the 2 stage vs single stage video. Would anyone really consider a single stage machine for clearing out a parking lot of that size? Not likely. That was a lot of snow for a single stage machine but the video showed the machines taking full bites.  I bet once the first pass was made by the single stage machine it's performance would have improved with half bites to the point where it would be moving considerably faster than the 2 stage machine. Before you say that it would still take the single a lot longer even though it was moving faster, I would agree in that situation that would be accurate but not in the case of a normal suburban driveway and sidewalk situation. It all comes down to how much snow you expect to get each year. In my situation a single stage(Toro 221QE) is faster and more efficient, even with snowfalls up to 18 inches. I find this machine can handle snowfalls much deeper than most give it credit for, drifts and all. EOD is another story but I find that if I get to it before it freezes and I attack the snow parallel to the street and sidewalk it does an adequate job.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #52   Jan 23, 2011 9:26 pm
That was the whole reason why I bought a two-stage snowblower since I was only going to buy one.  A single stage is good when you get 2-6 inches of snow but sometimes that can be a bit of work at the EOD. 
Dr_Woof


Don't blow into the wind, and don't eat yellow snow. WOOF!

Location: Saskatchewan
Joined: Dec 13, 2010
Points: 253

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #53   Jan 23, 2011 9:40 pm
Make sure you look at the tracked models if you get that hard blown snow like we in Saskatchewan do.

aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #54   Jan 23, 2011 9:45 pm
MN_Runner wrote:
That was the whole reason why I bought a two-stage snowblower since I was only going to buy one.  A single stage is good when you get 2-6 inches of snow but sometimes that can be a bit of work at the EOD. 


Single stage like the Toro and Honda can take on 12" fresh snow at a slow pace, not just 2 to 6 inches. EOD up to 12" can also be tackled, but requires some technique. If you normally get 12+ inch at EOD and you can only have one machine, 2 stage is more appropriate.
longboat


Joined: Feb 11, 2009
Points: 103

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #55   Jan 24, 2011 9:16 am
I tried out my Garant snow scoop on the EOD the other day and it actually worked faster than my 928 two-stage (albeit an MTD).  If I had it to do over, I would go with the Toro 421/221 and the snow scoop, and forget the two-stage altogether.

They have the snow scoop at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Garant-YPSS26-2-Inch-Ergonomic-Sleigh/dp/B000JLK0SM/ref=pd_sim_ol_2 but you'll probably find them cheaper at your local ACE Hardware store or Home Depot. 

NotMoneyGuy


Location: Toronto & north of
Joined: Nov 10, 2010
Points: 87

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #56   Jan 24, 2011 10:03 am
longboat wrote:
I tried out my Garant snow scoop on the EOD the other day and it actually worked faster than my 928 two-stage (albeit an MTD).  If I had it to do over, I would go with the Toro 421/221 and the snow scoop, and forget the two-stage altogether

I have to be on the other side on this one, I'd rather take a big shovel and a two-stage, and forget the single-stage.  Sometimes stuck at work while the EOD gets nice and hard.  The shovel can push most snow down to make a "bigger" EOD and then let the two-stage loose.



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MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Never owned a snow blower - thoughts on what will work?
Reply #57   Jan 24, 2011 6:58 pm
I am with you NotMoneyGuy as that is my approach on snow removal.  $25 shovel is good for a few years and I can really clean down to the surface.
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