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Scotie


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 7

Wheels won,t free wheel
Original Message   Jan 14, 2011 8:10 pm
I just put a new drive wheel on my 2003 ariens 8hp 24 " snowblower and now the wheels won't turn when the engine is off. when engine is running the wheels go fine in forward and reverse. This problem was not here before I changed the drive wheel. Any help would be great. I checked the free play off the drive wheel, and it is 1/8 " when the drive handle is not engaged.
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bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
Points: 321

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #1   Jan 15, 2011 12:22 am
Your wheel is rusted to your axle. If your drive wheel  can come off grease it good. Your other wheel is rusted to your axle. This rust makes it a drive wheel. You have to soak it. with PB Blaster. If that does not free it you must heat up you wheel with a torch. After you get your wheels off sand your axles and grease them.
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Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #2   Jan 15, 2011 4:25 am
When you say drive wheel are you talking the friction disc inside the transmission?  Sounds to me like the adjustments were tight because the old one was worn out and now the new one is fitting too tight.  Try loosening up the adjustment.
Scotie


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 7

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #3   Jan 15, 2011 10:45 am
The axle itself won't turn. I made sure that the disc drive wheel has clearance and the forward and reverse speeds are correct. The chain drive is not turning when the machine is off. This was not a problem to begin with, it onlyhAppened after I installed the new drive disc wheel.
Scotie


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 7

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #4   Jan 15, 2011 10:54 am
I had the wheels off, the axle won't turn unless the engine is running and I engage the drive disc wheel. I also made sure of all the adjustments and the disc wheel has 1/8 gap when the lever is not applied. Even when I had the disc drive off, the axle to the wheels would not turn. I did not realize this was a problem when kI putt all back together. Thanks.
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #5   Jan 15, 2011 12:39 pm
That doesn't sound normal.  Not really sure what else to suggest if you truely do have a gap between the disc and plate.  Is it possible that the spring came disconnected from the handle when you were playing with it and now the handle is not releasing completely?  Maybe there was a gap when you had the back tipped up, but now it is sagging and touching.  I would take a second look just to be sure.
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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #6   Jan 15, 2011 9:39 pm
Does it have differential?

What is the factory number off the back of the base?

To recap:

You are saying the machine drives fine in forward and reverse.

When you let up on the drive clutch and check the friction disk the friction disk does not touch the drive plate.

When you push the machine with the clutch not engaged and the engine not running you can't push the machine.

When you have the machine up on it's bucket, clutch not engaged, friction disk not touching the drive plate you can't turn the wheels.

Are all the above right?

When you turn the friction disk by hand what happens?  Do the gears or chain move?  Is the chain oiled?  Are the links free, not binding and loose inbetween the gears?

Can you wiggle the gears no matter how slightly?  Are they frozen solid or move at least 1/32 of an inch?

Something is wrong with the writeup.  You can run in forward and reverse and evidently you can stop and idle so the drive clutch and friction disk moving properly and backing off the drive plate when the clutch is disengaged.

I oculd see a roll pin being caught by something but the axle would turn almost a revolution.  Can you turin the wheels at all when the machine is up on it's bucket?  At all, even 1/8th of an inch?

Scotie


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 7

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #7   Jan 16, 2011 8:24 am
Touts2' I will have to recheck everything on Monday as I will be at the Patriots game today, yippee. Thanks for all the help
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #8   Jan 16, 2011 2:10 pm
Looks like there are now 3 threads regarding these issues.

http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/55042-0-1.html

http://www.abbysguide.com/ope/discussions/55043-0-1.html
Scotie


Joined: Jan 14, 2011
Points: 7

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #9   Jan 20, 2011 7:15 pm
Scotie wrote:
Touts2' I will have to recheck everything on Monday as I will be at the Patriots game today, yippee. Thanks for all the help


Hi trout2' I pulled the gear off that drives the the chain that moves the wheels. Apparently I put the gear on backwards when it fell off. As a result, the chain was jammed up to the gear and would not move. My biggest problem was that I could not get a good look at all the parts. Everything is working great now, thanks for all the help.
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Wheels won,t free wheel
Reply #10   Jan 20, 2011 8:44 pm
   You got it.  Nice going.  

   The belt and tractor area are small but I have lots of problems with enough light.  The garage got setup with 2 double floods on the sides, overhead and regular light.  There's a draw full of various flashlights, 3 forehead types, bendable snake lights and a host of bendable and snake mirrors.  Often working in there my hands are in the way and things fall off.   It's a pain if the drawings are not clear how thing go back together.

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