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rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Original Message   Dec 30, 2010 12:21 am
I moved to a new house, top of a hill, with farm land across from my driveway.

This is our second winter, and my MTD is not up to the task of clearing the packed snow that blows into my yard, sometimes daily.

I have been looking for a couple weeks, and had made up my mind to get the Honda. I had been to the Yamaha dealer previously, but they were not willing to deal.

Well today a new twist, I went back to Yamaha, and was offered the YS928J for the same price as the HS928TC.

Specs are very similar, with some different features. The Honda has full Joystick control on the chute, and is 100 lbs lighter.

The Yamaha has plastic coated chute, manual up/down. Has no shear pins, which may be a bonus, if the 'Shock Protection' works correctly. Also the Yamaha is quiter.

I have been reviewing this site, however, there is limited information on the Yamahas, likely because they just came back to Canada in 2009 (15 year Hiatus) and I am not sure if they are available in the U.S.

Has anyone out there used these models? Can you offer an Opinion?

This message was modified Dec 30, 2010 by rubinew
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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #42   Dec 31, 2010 11:01 am
Steve_Cebu wrote:
The reason there aren't many Yamaha owners on this site is because Yamaha will not sell them in the US. I think that is a bad move on their part but then again look at Toro they still make their own units not chinese clones or cheap jun like some brands and yet people aren't aware of them like they are Ariens. Dealers push Ariens like their lives depended on it at least the ones I've been to. My wife would not be able to change a shear pin. I'd come back and it would need a lot more "Fixing" than a shear pin if she were to try and fix it.

I love my wife but when it comes to anything mechanical she's 100% blonde. ooooooh what does this button do *Press* <<>Warning Self-Destruct<>> BOOM!


I have similar sentiment with Ariens dealers.  Several dealers I visited were aggressively pushing Ariens product, rude and arrogant, and were so quick to badmouth other brands, while glorifying their brands with thick American steel and made in America blind propaganda.  Not for me thank you.  Show me what your product can do and how well or thoughtful it was designed.  I'm quite capable of making my own mind.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #43   Dec 31, 2010 11:11 am
rubinew wrote:
:-) I might need a lawyer standing beside me as well!!! Hee hee

I'm not sure how having a lawyer present would be of any benefit to you.  Unless you're looking for a deduction for lawyer fees.

At $300+ an hour, I rather change the shear pins myself.  Take the wife and kids out to dinner with that $300 saved on the lawyer.
MN_Runner


Location: St. Paul, Minnesota
Joined: Dec 5, 2010
Points: 622

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #44   Dec 31, 2010 11:33 am
 Library is a nice option.  No shear pins to worry about, no fire recalls, no motor oil change, no carb-icing issue and no need to hire lawyers.  I only wish my local library opens early and closes really late so I have extra time to post at this forum.  I heard Canada libraries are warmer and have faster wi-fi systems.
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #45   Dec 31, 2010 12:36 pm
rubinew wrote:
The honda has not been ruled out, but feature wise, it is losing points. The weight thing is the last thing to deal with :-)

I'm not sure why you consider weight an issue, unless you plan to lift it into your truck to do multiple properties -- something I once had to do and purchased a Toro single stage for that very reason. Have you considered the advantage more weight brings? Traction. That's A Good Thing, and you'll need as much as you can get from your description of the conditions at your place.  It might be a little harder to move around the garage when it's not running, but how many minutes per year are you going to do that as compared to how many hours per year you'll be clearing snow?

Just something to consider.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #46   Dec 31, 2010 12:59 pm
aa335 wrote:
I'm not sure how having a lawyer present would be of any benefit to you.  Unless you're looking for a deduction for lawyer fees.

At $300+ an hour, I rather change the shear pins myself.  Take the wife and kids out to dinner with that $300 saved on the lawyer.



Hee hee, if I held a shovel like the previous poster mentioned, I would likely need a lawyer.

The problem with the shear pins is that I go to Toronto for a week every month. I can not imagine her trying to change a shear pin, in -20 weather.

It is sometimes a challenge to get the old pin out, plus line up the shaft with the auger, when it is cold, and iced, I would be very un popular :-)

rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #47   Dec 31, 2010 1:03 pm
Bill_H wrote:
I'm not sure why you consider weight an issue, unless you plan to lift it into your truck to do multiple properties -- something I once had to do and purchased a Toro single stage for that very reason. Have you considered the advantage more weight brings? Traction. That's A Good Thing, and you'll need as much as you can get from your description of the conditions at your place.  It might be a little harder to move around the garage when it's not running, but how many minutes per year are you going to do that as compared to how many hours per year you'll be clearing snow?

Just something to consider.


I fully agree with you, I think the weight will help keep the auger in the snow, and give extra traction.

Just have to make sure the weight does not stop my wife from being able to use it. She doesn't need to be out there for hours, but if she can clear for her Van, then we are good.

The tracks are very hard to turn when not under power, even for me. But with the tracks moving, esp on snow, it was OK, not as easy as Wheels, but manageable.

tkrotchko


Location: Maryland
Joined: Feb 9, 2010
Points: 143

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #48   Dec 31, 2010 1:07 pm
Bill_H wrote:
I'm not sure why you consider weight an issue, unless you plan to lift it into your truck to do multiple properties -- something I once had to do and purchased a Toro single stage for that very reason. Have you considered the advantage more weight brings? Traction. That's A Good Thing, and you'll need as much as you can get from your description of the conditions at your place.  It might be a little harder to move around the garage when it's not running, but how many minutes per year are you going to do that as compared to how many hours per year you'll be clearing snow?

Just something to consider.


I just fired up my Honda up and was moving it around in the garage and as long as you keep the speed low and the tracks moving, I had no issue spinning it or moving it around. And I'm not a big guy, either.
rubinew


Joined: Dec 30, 2010
Points: 147

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #49   Dec 31, 2010 1:08 pm
trouts2 wrote:
rubinew, I was hoping there would be more Yamaha users on this site.

Are you kidding..... here???  Most of the deadbeat broke posters here are homeless guys who get online at the local library.   Nobody has the bucks for a decent machine.  They post about upgrading to new machines but most cant' afford to upgrade their mittens.  You'd do better getting information from the Santaclause guy at a mall.

rubinew, you have this but others might want to check it out >>Online Yamaha brochure, has spec's : http://old.nabble.com/file/p30366721/2011_sb_en.pdf



Ouch, deadbeat homeless guys?? I am getting advice from these guys :-)

Thanks for the Link, I did not have that same brochure!

I think I see a Yamaha in our future, just need to get one in stock for my wife to take for a test drive!

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #50   Dec 31, 2010 1:10 pm
BillH is right. 

If the conditions are as bad as you say, the weight will be an advantage.   The machine is steerable under it's own power and has reverse.   Use the machine's motive ability to move it.  No need trying to wrestle something like that around without power.  Otherwise you'll be experiencing  a back injury.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Torn between Honda HS928TCD and Yamaha YS928J
Reply #51   Dec 31, 2010 2:30 pm
aa335 wrote:
I have similar sentiment with Ariens dealers.  Several dealers I visited were aggressively pushing Ariens product, rude and arrogant, and were so quick to badmouth other brands, while glorifying their brands with thick American steel and made in America blind propaganda.  Not for me thank you.  Show me what your product can do and how well or thoughtful it was designed.  I'm quite capable of making my own mind.


The Ariens dealer here is the same. Toro is made in the US so they can't use that arguement. But they push Ariens so much it makes me wonder why. If Ariens is all that and a bag of chips, why do a hard sell on it? Maybe they get more profit or something? Ariens did not impress me in anyway. The Toro and Honda did. Pushy dealers turn me off to the product.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
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