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stresst

Location: The Village in the Middle of New York
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Which fuel stabilizer??
Original Message Dec 26, 2010 3:17 pm

Being that im too lazy to do a search, figured I would just ask? Which stabilizer do you like best? Im sick and tired of ripping apart the carb next winter, so I figure I will be proactive and add somthing now. Any thoughts?

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njal

Joined: Jan 9, 2010
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #10 Dec 26, 2010 10:21 pm

bus708 wrote:

I'v always used Stabil in all my engines. I never had any hint of problems. Your problems come from not using any type of stabilizer. Stabil is cheap and it works for me. One other thing Keep your tanks fill of gas wile storing and do not drain your carb boll. You will avoid carb problems.
Think about it if you run your engine until it is out of gas you still have a splash left in your tank and your carb. You then but it in your shed . Your shed may get up to 140 degrees in the summer cooking any splash of gas left in the tank. Your tank can then collect moisture, creating mold during the rainy season. Your tank is then contaminated. When you refill it, your shut off valve may be stuck closed. Then you have crap going in your carb from your tank.Your float in your carb may become stuck
Get the picture. Keep your tank full with some Stabil added or other good fuel stabilizer of your chioce. Shut your machine off normaly and close you fuel valve if you have one. I'v done this for all my machines. weed wacker too. My ariens with a Techumseh engine never gave me any trouble for over 15 years.

Also read the posts ( My snow blower wont start)

that debate has been going on for years full or empty.

I keep my pri in my tank,but for me at the end of the season
I fog motor ,empty tank BONE DRY.Carb as well bone dry.
This works the best for me on small motors.
Now on say 150 gallon fuel tank I cant empty it so it's stays full.
with plenty of fuel stabilizer ,I use PRI but to each his own.
there are a lot of good ones out there.I also fog the hell out of my motors..

njal

Joined: Jan 9, 2010
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #11 Dec 26, 2010 10:33 pm

stresst wrote:

stresst
I saw your other post,your machine is brand new correct??

If it were me. End of season tank bone dry carb bone dry. fog motor with foging oil.

you will be race ready for next season.

Rifboy

Joined: Nov 10, 2010
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #12 Dec 27, 2010 7:48 am

I am a Vespa dealer and we winterize about 100 scooters a year. We use the marine version of Stabil. It has the highest concentration of anti corrosive additives and it seems to work the best. To be safe I'd suggest that you always have some Stabil Marine on hand so that even if the machine sits a month the stabilizer is in the gasoline protecting the carb and tank. Remember that the issue is not just the classic breakdown of the fuel but the corrosion that is caused by the water held in suspension by the Ethanol. The Stabil covers you for both! I think that it is a very prudent measure to drain the tank and carb before you put the machine away at the end of the season. New fuel when you want to use it in the Fall/Winter and away you go. Remember that the fuel you store in a fuel can goes bad too. I never let it sit unused. When I am done with the snow blowing I empty the can into my car and leave the can empty so that the next storm I will not have contaminated fuel to put into a nice clean fuel system. Rifboy

snowmachine

Location: Washington State
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #13 Dec 27, 2010 12:10 pm

I didn't know they had a marine version. I might have to try that out. I'm usually left with quite a bit of fuel at the end of the snow season in my sleds. That fuel usually goes into the cars as well.

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bus708

Location: Maryland
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #14 Dec 27, 2010 3:05 pm

snow machine

If you just run your engine until it stops , it just stops because you do not have the required amount of fuel in it to keep it running. There is always something there. Some fuels have water mix with the PFEE. If that is left in your boll it will corode and pit you boll.

To prove it Take some gas and put it in a gar. Now pour the gas out. take a match and throw it in the jar and see what happens. The same with your gas tank and your carb boll . It is not mutch gas left but enough.

sorry about all the underlining. My computer is acting crazy

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aa335

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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #15 Dec 27, 2010 3:36 pm

bus708 wrote:

To prove it Take some gas and put it in a gar. Now pour the gas out. take a match and throw it in the jar and see what happens.

Let's take a few seconds to think about that suggestion before trying it out. There's a few steps missing from this procedure.

At least call the fire department and the ambulance and let them have a few minutes of head start just in case it "happens"

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snowmachine

Location: Washington State
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #16 Dec 28, 2010 7:23 am

I did mention above that I empty the bowls out at the end of the season. I was asking where else there would be fuel in carb if tank and bowl were emptied? Is there significant amounts of fuel left in some jets internally?

1. I turn fuel valve off
2. Run it until it quits
3. Pull off fuel line from tank and power remaining fuel into approved container
4. Remove carb bowl and empty contents and clean out any debris if there is any.
5. Reinstall bowl and turn over to see if it will fire. It never does.
6. Reattach everything and put away

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hirschallan

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Location: Northern Hills of NY
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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #17 Dec 28, 2010 9:17 am

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borat

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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #18 Dec 28, 2010 9:27 am

bus708 wrote:

The above example is of little to no consequence regarding varnish build up or residual corrosive chemicals left in the carb. Take that same jar and don't throw the match in. Allow it to dry. Try to find anything in the jar once it's dry. It takes quite a bit of fuel to create enough varnish/corrosion to cause carb problems.

I don't believe in additives anymore and subscribe to running carbs dry at the end of the season. I own 30+ small engines. Many of them two strokes. Everything gets run dry. No problems. EVER!

aa335

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Re: Which fuel stabilizer??
Reply #19 Dec 28, 2010 9:55 am

borat wrote:

I don't believe in additives anymore and subscribe to running carbs dry at the end of the season. I own 30+ small engines. Many of them two strokes. Everything gets run dry. No problems. EVER!

I'm giving that a try this winter. No fuel additive or preservative. I'm just going to buy enough fresh fuel as I use them. If any fuel is older than 3 weeks, I'd just pour into the tank of the car and use it up.

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