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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

How Big Should an Auger Be?
Original Message   Oct 12, 2010 1:10 am
Most sub $1000 snowblowers have 12" augers, usually with 12" impellers. Ariens has 14" augers and impellers on their Deluxe, Platinum, and Professional lines; Simplicity/Deere/Snapper have 14" augers on their large frame and professional models with 12" impellers, Toro has 14" augers with 12" impellers on their PowerMax series. Honda uses 14" augers on its larger models. MTD's Cub Cadet and Sears Professional lines have 16" augers and impellers.  However the Husqvarna Crown has 12" augers of a different design.

What is the advantage of a larger auger?

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FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #18   Oct 26, 2010 6:43 pm
Yeah, DavidNJ is over at MTF. He won't last long there if he behaves the way he did here!

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #19   Oct 26, 2010 8:20 pm
So far he's been a good boy scout, although mildly analytical.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #20   Oct 26, 2010 8:28 pm
aa335 wrote:
Can't believe you gave away that trade secret for nothing.  I'd hold out for at least a quarter.

Amen, it is what it is.  Pass me the beer nuts.

On a side note, a little birdie to me that DavidNJ is now a reluctant owner of  bare bones Sno-Tek 28" snowblower.  He's having meaningful discussions with the folks on the "other forum" about shovels, Husqvarna business strategy, and the future of snowblowers.


I had stated before that he was probably going to buy something cheap and I guess that's exactly what he did. I hope it works out for him. I'm very happy with my Toro which is now back at home after an overpriced annual dealer servicing.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #21   Oct 26, 2010 10:13 pm
Yes I saw that a mile away. Overly analytical tight wat with so much detail to evaluate without consideration to practical issues that really matters. In the end, he will buy the cheapest from a big box store after wasting people's time at the dealer.
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #22   Oct 26, 2010 10:25 pm
Don't worry guys.  He is only keeping the Sno-Tek for a couple years until every snowblower has hydrostatic drive then he is going to sell it for $500 and get a hydro.

Also, now he is over analyzing his purchase and is afraid to unload the box from his SUV or open it.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #23   Oct 27, 2010 12:46 am
Shryp wrote:
Don't worry guys.  He is only keeping the Sno-Tek for a couple years until every snowblower has hydrostatic drive then he is going to sell it for $500 and get a hydro.

Also, now he is over analyzing his purchase and is afraid to unload the box from his SUV or open it.



That's really pedantic of him. I mean once you've bought it then go for it and don't look back. Really the guy should have bought a Toro, it did everything he wanted it to and the cost was reasonable. Plus his wife could use it. I mean if my wife can use it then anyone who is 12 years old or older can use one, as my kids were my wifes size when they were 12, except my son he was that size when he was 8 or 9.

The cost was reasonable too. But this just shows how you can over-think something to your own detriment. Also I seriously doubt that all snowblowers will have a hydrostatic drive in 2-3 years. They cost more and are expensive to fix when they break. Nice to use tho.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #24   Oct 27, 2010 1:21 am
DavidNJ,

Have you tried researching the used market yet? I did, and it was VERY revealing. Here in Quebec at least, you'll lose very little if you're selling a hi-quality machine like a Honda or Yamaha. I'm seeing older 8hp/28" Yamahas selling for as much as $2k. and from what I understand, Yamaha has been out of the North American market since 1995. I'm seeing used Hondas from 2002, 2003, going for $2300. and more.  Why not look for a well-maintained older machine, and you'll have everything you've been looking for (hydrostatic / hi-speed impeller / durability / reliability / performance / good re-sale value). Use it for a few years, then flip it if you want a newer machine. You'll get back most of what you paid, and all the while, you'll be working with a top-notch machine.

How tough can a New Jersey winter be on a hi-quality used machine? We get an average 10.5' of snow annually, and those machines just keep on tickin'.
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #25   Oct 27, 2010 4:21 am
Steve_Cebu wrote:
That's really pedantic of him. I mean once you've bought it then go for it and don't look back. Really the guy should have bought a Toro, it did everything he wanted it to and the cost was reasonable. Plus his wife could use it. I mean if my wife can use it then anyone who is 12 years old or older can use one, as my kids were my wifes size when they were 12, except my son he was that size when he was 8 or 9.

The cost was reasonable too. But this just shows how you can over-think something to your own detriment. Also I seriously doubt that all snowblowers will have a hydrostatic drive in 2-3 years. They cost more and are expensive to fix when they break. Nice to use tho.


He didn't want a Toro because they reinforced the load bearing parts, remember?

Silly Steve.
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #26   Oct 27, 2010 7:02 am
I just took a look at that thread DavidNJ posted over at the other site - man that guy could over think the construction of a toothpick! Can you imagine what it was like for him to buy a car or other big ticket item? He's trying to figure out what the next incarnation (2 - 3 years down the line!) of snowblower will have for features before he decides to keep the SnoTek he already bought or buy a different brand this season.

The guy could most likely get away with a nice single stage for 95% of the storms that come his way. Better not throw that one out there or he'll start a new decision tree/mathematical equation to figure how the snow will discharge from the inadequate chute design, poor tires, lack of drive unit, gauge steel/type of plastic used in the construction, handle location, number of chute rotations, etc...on & on & on & on & on & on....

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #27   Oct 27, 2010 7:29 am
The funny thing is that he is so fixated on hydrostatic transmission and bucket rise. Not once did he mention anything about technique until asked. The analysis and conclusion were way off. I'm sure glad this guy does not work on space program or designing real things that we all use.

I can see that even with a new snowblower he won't even learn how to use it effectively but instead he will pick on insignificant details. Like someone who bought a $3000 camera and $2000 lens just to take pictures of trees and branches flapping in the wind, only to criticize how the pixels aren't sharp and the color is off. For $5000 in equipment I would ask what was the outcome? Any spectacular keepers that you can put on a wall or sell?
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