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drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
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Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Original Message   Oct 13, 2010 12:06 pm
Hi Everyone, snowblower noob here.

First off, GREAT forum. :vg: I've spent the last few days researching here, and the amount and quality of information is superb.

I live in SouthWestern Quebec.(1 hour n/w of Montreal) Our annual snowfall averages around 7 feet. We rarely get storms that'll dump 1 foot of snow, but it does happen.

My driveway is roughly 135' long, double-width, and a "Y" that extends around the front of the house. Total sq. footage of paved surface is over 4000 sq.ft. My driveway has a sloped entry of approximately 15-20 degrees, and 50' long, and the mouth of the entrance is roughly 40' wide. That 40' mouth is a bear to shovel out after the friendly snow-plow dude buries me in.

About me, I'm 62, and just recovering from a back injury which has kept me off work for just over 4 months now. In the past, I've been shoveling the driveway with a snow-scraper. This year, I'm going to buy my first-ever snow-blower.

After reading through many threads here, I realize there are many Ariens fans here. Although I've looked at the Ariens machines in the past, I think I'm going to go with the heavy-duty Troy-Bilt 33" machine. I'm still flexible at this point, and I'm also considering the Ariens 30"/305cc machine, but I intend to purchase by next weekend. (Oct.17th) I'm interested in your comments and opinions.

The Troy-Bilt unit I'm presently looking at has a 357cc OHV PowerMore engine w/electric start, 16" impeller and augers, 16"x6.5" tires, halogen light/hand-warmers, remote chute direction-deflection, and a 4 year warranty, for $1899. CDN. At 379 lbs, it strikes me as being a much more robust machine than the smaller 30" Ariens unit that I'm also considering (305 cc/$1599./245 lbs). Financing for the Troy-Bilt is 0% interest, no payments, no fees, for 1 year. I'm looking for a unit that can throw at least 30', and preferably over 40'. While the Ariens "32" Pro" series looks interesting, it's also $800. more than the Troy-Bilt here in Quebec, with a shorter 3 year warranty.($2699.)

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2 ... ?locale=en


http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stor ... PartNumber

I have no intention to use this machine commercially btw, otherwise, I might consider the Ariens 32" Pro series. The smaller Ariens unit (30") has smaller tires than the Troy-Bilt(15"??), no hand-warmers, manual chute deflection, smaller motor, smaller frame, shorter warranty, smaller augers and impeller, but it's $300. less than the Troy-Bilt. Doesn't seem worthwhile. What do you guys think?

The Troy-Bilts' "PowerMore" 357cc engine is manufactured in China, by the same folks who manufacture Harley-Davidson engines. It has a cast-iron cylinder-sleeve, cast-iron cam-shaft, and forged-steel crank-shaft. I'm presently awaiting confirmation of the16"  impeller rotation-speed from MTD..If it's the same as the 12" model, it should be 1123 rpm. That would put it at roughly the same tip-speed as a 14" impeller, turning at 1300 rpm. (roughly 53-54 mph.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Bob

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #71   Oct 18, 2010 3:29 pm
drifter wrote:
Don't forget, here in Quebec, that brand new Yamaha YS928J would cost me over $4600. after taxes. I figure I can buy a 2 or 3 year old 1132 for around $3k from a private vendor, Private sales are non-taxable here, but used machines are taxable if purchased from a dealer.

That's a considerable sum of money.  In all seriousness, I'm happy with my snowblower, can't see myself dumping it to get a new Yamaha unless a ridiculously good deal comes my way.
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #72   Oct 18, 2010 8:56 pm
Guys,,,, That's it..... I'm done shopping. I'm making up my mind tonight, but it's down to two BRAND NEW machines.   In the morning, I'm off to the bank.

My local Honda dealer has offered me the HS928TC for $200. off,,, free delivery.

http://hondacanada.ca/HPower/Models/ModelOverview?L=E&Type=SnowBlowers&Series=HS928&Model=HS928TC

From there, I went to the Yamaha dealer in the next town, and he's agreed to take the same amount off the brand new Yamaha YS929J, and free delivery.

http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/images/generators/2011_SB_YS928J_l.jpg

http://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products/products.php?section=td&model=3537&addBrochure=td

That's what I'm agonizing over tonight.

The Honda HS928TC would be $3199. and tx. (roughly $3700. tax incl.)
The Yamaha YS928J is $3799 after a $200 discount, plus $50 dealer transport. He'll deliver it free. $4344. tax incl.

The Yamaha has all the bells and whistles, including electric 12vdc start (battery), the electronic chute-control, gas-assist auger-lift, dual-stage auger with "shock-protector" system, and electro-magnetic drive, and 6.7 litre gas-tank with fuel gauge. TCI ignition system (whatever that means)

The Honda weighs 234 lbs,,,,,,, the Yammie weighs 373 lbs.

What say you wise ones?????

I suppose I should throw the Honda HS1132TC in that mix. It would be roughly in between the two I've mentioned $3599.+tax. $4100 Tax. Inc.
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aa335


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #73   Oct 18, 2010 9:03 pm
Lets start a poll

I'm for Blue! It's the cheapest only 11.67 dollars per pound
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drifter


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #74   Oct 18, 2010 9:14 pm
aa335, I don't know if you saw my edit, which I did while you were replying to my post. I'm throwing the Honda HS1132TC in that mix. I'm presuming the dealer will give me the same $200 discount on that machine .
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #75   Oct 18, 2010 9:28 pm
drifter wrote:
aa335, I don't know if you saw my edit, which I did while you were replying to my post. I'm throwing the Honda HS1132TC in that mix. I'm presuming the dealer will give me the same $200 discount on that machine .



Honestly I'd go for the Yamaha at that close a price, it's a lifetime and will be worth nearly what you bought it for even years down the road.

That said the Hondas are great machines. I'd get whichever one I could steer the best and would do my driveway the easiest.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #76   Oct 18, 2010 9:30 pm
I would narrow it down between the 28" models. I'd would go with Yamaha 28 because it has more features, more exclusive. The quietness is a plus too. But then again, if it's my money, I'd go with the Honda 928TCD. It's cheaper, more compact and lighter, has straight forward ergonomics. Easier to sell later on
drifter


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #77   Oct 18, 2010 9:38 pm
The Honda dealer gave me the discount on the HS928TC, not the TCD. If he applied the same discount on the TCD model, it would be the same price as the Yamaha YS928J, but I believe the Yamaha is the better machine among those two. Pretty close, but the Yamaha is quieter. The Yammie also weighs 130 lbs more. Built like a tank.
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aa335


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #78   Oct 18, 2010 9:45 pm
Does the Yamaha have independent track steering?
drifter


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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #79   Oct 18, 2010 10:07 pm
aa335 wrote:
Does the Yamaha have independent track steering?

Not that I know of. Never occurred to me to ask, but I'm reasonably certain that this option is only available on the larger machines.
giocam


Joined: Sep 18, 2010
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Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #80   Oct 18, 2010 10:24 pm
The honda and yammie are fairly equally regarded snowblowers.
At almost $650 less, I would go with the Honda. The only difference is it doesn't come with electric start but they are easy peasy to start anyways so that wouldn't concern me.
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