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drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Original Message   Oct 13, 2010 12:06 pm
Hi Everyone, snowblower noob here.

First off, GREAT forum. :vg: I've spent the last few days researching here, and the amount and quality of information is superb.

I live in SouthWestern Quebec.(1 hour n/w of Montreal) Our annual snowfall averages around 7 feet. We rarely get storms that'll dump 1 foot of snow, but it does happen.

My driveway is roughly 135' long, double-width, and a "Y" that extends around the front of the house. Total sq. footage of paved surface is over 4000 sq.ft. My driveway has a sloped entry of approximately 15-20 degrees, and 50' long, and the mouth of the entrance is roughly 40' wide. That 40' mouth is a bear to shovel out after the friendly snow-plow dude buries me in.

About me, I'm 62, and just recovering from a back injury which has kept me off work for just over 4 months now. In the past, I've been shoveling the driveway with a snow-scraper. This year, I'm going to buy my first-ever snow-blower.

After reading through many threads here, I realize there are many Ariens fans here. Although I've looked at the Ariens machines in the past, I think I'm going to go with the heavy-duty Troy-Bilt 33" machine. I'm still flexible at this point, and I'm also considering the Ariens 30"/305cc machine, but I intend to purchase by next weekend. (Oct.17th) I'm interested in your comments and opinions.

The Troy-Bilt unit I'm presently looking at has a 357cc OHV PowerMore engine w/electric start, 16" impeller and augers, 16"x6.5" tires, halogen light/hand-warmers, remote chute direction-deflection, and a 4 year warranty, for $1899. CDN. At 379 lbs, it strikes me as being a much more robust machine than the smaller 30" Ariens unit that I'm also considering (305 cc/$1599./245 lbs). Financing for the Troy-Bilt is 0% interest, no payments, no fees, for 1 year. I'm looking for a unit that can throw at least 30', and preferably over 40'. While the Ariens "32" Pro" series looks interesting, it's also $800. more than the Troy-Bilt here in Quebec, with a shorter 3 year warranty.($2699.)

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2 ... ?locale=en


http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stor ... PartNumber

I have no intention to use this machine commercially btw, otherwise, I might consider the Ariens 32" Pro series. The smaller Ariens unit (30") has smaller tires than the Troy-Bilt(15"??), no hand-warmers, manual chute deflection, smaller motor, smaller frame, shorter warranty, smaller augers and impeller, but it's $300. less than the Troy-Bilt. Doesn't seem worthwhile. What do you guys think?

The Troy-Bilts' "PowerMore" 357cc engine is manufactured in China, by the same folks who manufacture Harley-Davidson engines. It has a cast-iron cylinder-sleeve, cast-iron cam-shaft, and forged-steel crank-shaft. I'm presently awaiting confirmation of the16"  impeller rotation-speed from MTD..If it's the same as the 12" model, it should be 1123 rpm. That would put it at roughly the same tip-speed as a 14" impeller, turning at 1300 rpm. (roughly 53-54 mph.

Thanks in advance for your input.

Bob

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trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #123   Oct 21, 2010 9:14 am
   How about transporting it in your car?     Blowers can fit sideways into many trunks.  They rest on the bottom of the trunk lid and "fall" into the trunk, actually lean to the rear of the trunk.  I've transported about 100 this way.  The biggest has been 28 inch.  I've hauled about 4 MTD 10hp track machines that way. 

   I use blankets between the machine and car and tie off the machine by the trunk supports.

If I'm lucky in about 10 minutes I'll be picking up a Honda 5.5hp track which should easily fit in the trunk. 

Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #124   Oct 21, 2010 10:06 am
I don't know how the Hondas are put together, but the old Ariens only have 2 bolts holding the front and back halves together.  Ok, add 2 more bolts for the belt cover and a hair pin for the crank rod.

The drive section would probably easily fit in a truck and then the scoop in the back seat or in the trunk next to the tractor drive assembly.  Splitting it in half would also help with the lifting/loading.
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #125   Oct 21, 2010 12:25 pm
There's no way this snow-thrower will fit in my trunk. The trunk lid is wayyyy to short. (Acura RL 3.5)  I'll most likely rent a truck.

As for a make-shift ramp, that shouldn't be a big deal. Boards can flex at different rates though, but I can always wedge something under the mid-point of the boards, to keep them from flexing excessively. A set of spare tires for example. I don't have any boards though, so I'd have to order some, and that takes time.

I'm working on yet another solution. I just called a guy who transports seasonal equipment (golf carts, etc). He's going to call me back with a price, later this afternoon.
giocam


Joined: Sep 18, 2010
Points: 74

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #126   Oct 21, 2010 1:35 pm
Ask the guy you are buying from if he has the means to deliver it...
FrankMA


Location: Merrimack Valley/Northeastern Mass
Joined: Jul 1, 2010
Points: 587

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #127   Oct 21, 2010 2:29 pm
drifter wrote:
I don't have any boards though, so I'd have to order some, and that takes time.


You don't need anything fancy. Just go to Home Depot, Lowes or any lumber yard and get a couple of 2 x 10's or 2 x 12's. They even sell a little gizmo that screws onto the end of the board that will kind of clip the board onto the edge of the floorboards so they don't slide down.

Toro Wheel Horse 522xi GT, Honda HS928TA, Honda HS621AS, Honda HS520A, Toro CCR3000 (work in progress), Honda HS624WA (sold 08/23/2010), Stihl BR550 Backpack Blower, Stihl MS250, McCulloch MS1635, Honda EM6500SX Generator
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #128   Oct 21, 2010 2:56 pm
drifter wrote:
There's no way this snow-thrower will fit in my trunk. The trunk lid is wayyyy to short. (Acura RL 3.5)  I'll most likely rent a truck.

As for a make-shift ramp, that shouldn't be a big deal. Boards can flex at different rates though, but I can always wedge something under the mid-point of the boards, to keep them from flexing excessively. A set of spare tires for example. I don't have any boards though, so I'd have to order some, and that takes time.

I'm working on yet another solution. I just called a guy who transports seasonal equipment (golf carts, etc). He's going to call me back with a price, later this afternoon.



If you go to HD and get a 2'x12' board and have them cut it in half at no cost you will have a 6' ramp that will work for anything except a Pickup truck.

Just curious as to how much they wanted to clear your property for a year? Did you ever get that estimate?

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #129   Oct 21, 2010 4:13 pm
I just solved my transport issue. I went to the local U-Haul guy, and when I told him I only need the truck for 3 hours, he said; "I'll go pick up and deliver that snow-blower for you, and I'll do it for $100. Thank God for small towns.

I'm off to the bank to get a certified cheque.

Last detail; I'm wondering if I should just take the chance, and go with the transport guy in the morning. Otherwise, I'd have to go inspect the machine tonight, and that's a three hour or more project. Worst-case scenario, I don't want the snow-blower after inspection, and I'm out $100.
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #130   Oct 21, 2010 4:19 pm
OK, snow removal contractor just called. $320. plus tax. Roughly $368. Payable in three installments, Nov, Jan, Feb. That sure is tempting too.

I might do both for this year. I could use the snow-blower to clear areas where the contractor can't go, or at least clear an area to get my car off the street if I come home during a storm, and the contractor hasn't shown up yet.

The way those Honda 1132's sell on the used market, I could resell it  in a year, and still be out only $100. or so.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #131   Oct 21, 2010 4:37 pm
drifter wrote:
OK, snow removal contractor just called. $320. plus tax. Roughly $368. Payable in three installments, Nov, Jan, Feb. That sure is tempting too.

I might do both for this year. I could use the snow-blower to clear areas where the contractor can't go, or at least clear an area to get my car off the street if I come home during a storm, and the contractor hasn't shown up yet.

The way those Honda 1132's sell on the used market, I could resell it  in a year, and still be out only $100. or so.


Kinda weird to have an awesome snowblower and not use it. It's easy to clean the driveway. Save the money and do it yourself. Or just have the guy do it. I'd probably buy a single stage if I had someone clearing for me. But that didn't work out well for me so I do it myself now.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
drifter


Joined: Oct 13, 2010
Points: 115

Re: Snow thrower noob, Need advice please.
Reply #132   Oct 22, 2010 12:01 am
Well, I am happy to report that I am now the proud owner of a 2008 Honda HS1132TC

You won't believe this, but I'm 99% certain it's snowing here. I couldn't believe it. It's melting on contact with the ground, and it certainly doesn't feel that cold out there, but what I saw in my headlights was definitely not rain.
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