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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

How Big Should an Auger Be?
Original Message   Oct 12, 2010 1:10 am
Most sub $1000 snowblowers have 12" augers, usually with 12" impellers. Ariens has 14" augers and impellers on their Deluxe, Platinum, and Professional lines; Simplicity/Deere/Snapper have 14" augers on their large frame and professional models with 12" impellers, Toro has 14" augers with 12" impellers on their PowerMax series. Honda uses 14" augers on its larger models. MTD's Cub Cadet and Sears Professional lines have 16" augers and impellers.  However the Husqvarna Crown has 12" augers of a different design.

What is the advantage of a larger auger?

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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #7   Oct 12, 2010 9:53 am
aa335 wrote:
Hmmm... is there a point?  What does your binary decision diagram tells to do next?  Come up with a new issue?  Gather more data?  Mess with SteveCebu's?


The point should have been to say why a bigger auger would be better. And this isn't that much bigger, about 16%.  Really big blowers can have multiple rows of augers covering the whole height. Ariens uses the same 14" for their Deluxe, Platinum, and Pro yet the first two have 21" scoops and the Pro 23".  Some scoops, such as the Honda and 722 Toro or exposed for the first couple of incnhes on top. Presumably then the design is the snow above the auger falls into in. Thse that are squared on top would seem to be saying this is as tall as they can handle.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #8   Oct 12, 2010 10:24 am
Bigger or smaller is irrelevant.  Why don't you spend some time reviewing the requirements list that you posted and see how many of those requirements can be met with one machine?  I bet you there isn't one.  No one makes a snowblower just for YOU!

Well, what are you going to do next?  It's called compromise and balance.  Narrow down to 2 or 3 machines with the features/performance that mostly fits your requirements, or your spouse.  Discuss it with your spouse, present the costs to your spouse, and don't discuss issues.  You're the problem solver and she expect you already taken care of issues and not waste her time.  And finally, pick one that you both agree on.

Hypothetically, if she says there's no way she's going use a 2 stage and it's too expensive, maybe you should start your research on a single stage.  Go to the "other" forum and ask questions.  They are a fun bunch of folks, lots of Honda, Ariens, Yamaha, and Toro members.  They are very helpful, direct to the point, and sometimes provides a few laughs.  There are some of those members in this forum too.   :)

Not saying that you should go there just yet.  Adjust your attitude, relax, don't call people Democrats or Republicans, avoid religious remarks, respect the elders, and you fit just right in.  Political affiliations have not been proven to correlate with snowblower brand purchase, so don't mention it, you'll look like a clown with an opinion.  Like I say, they are a fun bunch of folks, but have little tolerance for idiots, and will make mincemeat out of stupidity. 
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mikiewest


Joined: Dec 29, 2007
Points: 262

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #9   Oct 12, 2010 8:32 pm
I know what davids problem is.He's using the wrong formula.If he would just realize that a squared +b squared truly =c squared,he would know what snowblower to buy........
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #10   Oct 12, 2010 9:36 pm
I'm down to two snowblowers, and the auger, both design and size, is a significant difference. There are others--handlebars are slightly different, chute direction/deflection controls, price, differential, and one has hydrostatic drive--but the auger could be the deciding factor if one had a decisive advantage or disadvantage.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #11   Oct 12, 2010 10:05 pm
mikiewest wrote:
I know what davids problem is.He's using the wrong formula.If he would just realize that a squared +b squared truly =c squared,he would know what snowblower to buy........


Easy as pie.
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
Joined: Apr 12, 2008
Points: 600

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #12   Oct 12, 2010 10:07 pm
I think I would build my own at this point with the welder... Mine would have 2 impellers, both with rubber kits on them, --and lasers... Friiy
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #13   Oct 12, 2010 10:12 pm
Judging from the responses, no one has any insight into impeller size?
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #14   Oct 12, 2010 10:12 pm
Is that going to be a 2 stage water pump?
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #15   Oct 12, 2010 10:21 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
Judging from the responses, no one has any insight into impeller size?


Someone among us do know but he's not giving away the secret sauce for free.
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: How Big Should an Auger Be?
Reply #16   Oct 14, 2010 12:38 am
Steve_Cebu wrote:
I mean how much snow do they actually get in New Jersey anyway? He'd be fine with a Toro single stage 2 stroke


I once did live in NJ and got along fine with a Toro single stage 2 stroke. They're great on wet slush, NJ gets lots of that.

As for the original question "How Big Should an Auger Be?" I strongly recommend, based on many years of experience, that it be almost as long as the bucket is wide, but not longer than the width of the bucket.

This message was modified Oct 14, 2010 by Bill_H


Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
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