Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Most sub $1000 snowblowers have 12" augers, usually with 12" impellers. Ariens has 14" augers and impellers on their Deluxe, Platinum, and Professional lines; Simplicity/Deere/Snapper have 14" augers on their large frame and professional models with 12" impellers, Toro has 14" augers with 12" impellers on their PowerMax series. Honda uses 14" augers on its larger models. MTD's Cub Cadet and Sears Professional lines have 16" augers and impellers.  However the Husqvarna Crown has 12" augers of a different design.

What is the advantage of a larger auger?

Taller the auger, Taller the bucket... With a taller bucket it will handle deeper snow falls without collapsing over the bucket onto the engine as much.. Friiy

aa335 wrote:

DavidNJ will not admit that the Toro is the best for his wife and himself although he has basically posted that is does everything he wants and is easy for his wife to use. My wife can easily use it and she's tiny. So he makes up problems with auger size and impellers. I think he'd rather be contrary other than pick what he already knows is the best machine for his needs. But he probably has just enough money for a new shovel and is a dreamer about buying a machine I mean how much snow do they actually get in New Jersey anyway? He'd be fine with a Toro single stage 2 stroke if he could afford it.

His solutions are in front of his face, he just refuses to see them. You can only help a blind man so much, after that he's going to go his own way, in this case off a cliff. Too much pissing in the wind if you ask me.

friiy wrote:

The Ariens and the Simplicity with 14" augers have 21" tall scoops, the Husqvarna with a 12" auger has a 23" tall scoop.

DavidNJ wrote:
Hmmm... is there a point?  What does your binary decision diagram tells to do next?  Come up with a new issue?  Gather more data?  Mess with SteveCebu's?

aa335 wrote:

The point should have been to say why a bigger auger would be better. And this isn't that much bigger, about 16%.  Really big blowers can have multiple rows of augers covering the whole height. Ariens uses the same 14" for their Deluxe, Platinum, and Pro yet the first two have 21" scoops and the Pro 23".  Some scoops, such as the Honda and 722 Toro or exposed for the first couple of incnhes on top. Presumably then the design is the snow above the auger falls into in. Thse that are squared on top would seem to be saying this is as tall as they can handle.

Bigger or smaller is irrelevant.  Why don't you spend some time reviewing the requirements list that you posted and see how many of those requirements can be met with one machine?  I bet you there isn't one.  No one makes a snowblower just for YOU!

Well, what are you going to do next?  It's called compromise and balance.  Narrow down to 2 or 3 machines with the features/performance that mostly fits your requirements, or your spouse.  Discuss it with your spouse, present the costs to your spouse, and don't discuss issues.  You're the problem solver and she expect you already taken care of issues and not waste her time.  And finally, pick one that you both agree on.

Hypothetically, if she says there's no way she's going use a 2 stage and it's too expensive, maybe you should start your research on a single stage.  Go to the "other" forum and ask questions.  They are a fun bunch of folks, lots of Honda, Ariens, Yamaha, and Toro members.  They are very helpful, direct to the point, and sometimes provides a few laughs.  There are some of those members in this forum too.   :)

Not saying that you should go there just yet.  Adjust your attitude, relax, don't call people Democrats or Republicans, avoid religious remarks, respect the elders, and you fit just right in.  Political affiliations have not been proven to correlate with snowblower brand purchase, so don't mention it, you'll look like a clown with an opinion.  Like I say, they are a fun bunch of folks, but have little tolerance for idiots, and will make mincemeat out of stupidity. 

I know what davids problem is.He's using the wrong formula.If he would just realize that a squared +b squared truly =c squared,he would know what snowblower to buy........

I'm down to two snowblowers, and the auger, both design and size, is a significant difference. There are others--handlebars are slightly different, chute direction/deflection controls, price, differential, and one has hydrostatic drive--but the auger could be the deciding factor if one had a decisive advantage or disadvantage.

mikiewest wrote:

Easy as pie.

I think I would build my own at this point with the welder... Mine would have 2 impellers, both with rubber kits on them, --and lasers... Friiy