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bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
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Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Original Message   Oct 10, 2010 2:21 pm
In theory it should work.  I don't undrstand how it realy works. Snow blower housings are NOT perfictly round. Only the low spot  (spot with the closest distance with housing )will get wiped. All impeller blades will be worn to this low spot during the brake in period.  So in reality it is never a clean swipe , Only the low spot gets wiped clean. The other areas will still have a gap. How big a gap will depend on the out of roundness of your housing. This area the impeller scrapes clean also scraps off your paint . Your housing will then rust away.   Then what.   Buy another  housing or

BLOWER !!   I believe Hondas pump so good because there housings are rounder and there impeller clearances are tighter from the design of the unit.

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Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #1   Oct 10, 2010 2:26 pm
I just put a kit on an old Ariens and I can't wait to try it out.

The housing seems pretty even all the way around, but it is not broke in all the way yet.

There was a low spot where the chute opening was welded to the cylinder, but I ground that down first.
It is welded on the outside, so grinding a bit off the inside didn't seem to matter at all.

As for scraping the paint off,  this is a 33 year old snowblower, so it didn't have any paint on it anymore anyway.
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #2   Oct 10, 2010 4:20 pm
Now there is something I didn't do; use a magenetic mount and dial indicator to measure the impeller housing runout. Or for that matter the tolerance on impeller blade length. However, a bit hard to do without removing the belts so it can be rotated by hand. Are the Simplicity impeller housings round?
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #3   Oct 10, 2010 4:58 pm
DavidNJ wrote:
Are the Simplicity impeller housings round?

I believe they are square.
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #4   Oct 10, 2010 5:01 pm
Shryp wrote:
I believe they are square.


Don't be silly they are triangular, a Simplicity exclusive. LOL

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
Shryp


Location: Cleveland, OH
Joined: Jul 26, 2010
Points: 532

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #5   Oct 10, 2010 5:03 pm
Steve_Cebu wrote:
Don't be silly they are triangular, a Simplicity exclusive. LOL

Ahh, my bad.

3 isn't as good as 4, but it is still better than 1.
DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
Points: 206

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #6   Oct 10, 2010 10:12 pm
Posting a question here is a bit like asking a question in a third grade class for the slow kids.

Round, in contrast with 'out-of-round'. That Is one of the tolerances on impeller/housing clearance.

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aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
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Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #7   Oct 11, 2010 9:22 am
Yeah, does a third grader know how to read between the lines?
Steve_Cebu


Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 888

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #8   Oct 11, 2010 9:27 am
aa335 wrote:
Yeah, does a third grader know how to read between the lines?



The guy really is a Drongo, an Aussie term I picked up while living overseas, lots of Aussie friends where I lived.

Here is the definition as best as I can define it. It's a tough one like the meaning of "Maldita" in Bisayan

Drongo: A person who couldn't get a clue during the clue mating season in a field full of horny clues if he smeared his body with clue musk and did the clue mating dance.

"If you have more miles on your snow blower than your car, you live in New England."  "If you can drive 75 mph through 2 feet of snow during a raging blizzard without flinching, you live in New England."
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #9   Oct 11, 2010 9:49 am
The problem is that they don't have Barry White.
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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
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Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #10   Oct 11, 2010 7:15 pm
Steve_Cebu wrote:
an Aussie term I picked up while living overseas, lots of Aussie friends where I lived.

You have friends?

bus708


Location: Maryland
Joined: Jul 24, 2010
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Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #11   Oct 11, 2010 10:08 pm
CAN WE  PLEASE STAY ON TH SUBJECT
JimmyM


Joined: Dec 20, 2009
Points: 82

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #12   Oct 13, 2010 10:38 am
I believe it WILL improve performance even if the impeller isn't exactly centered in the housing. Set the rubber wipers so they just touch at their closest point. You have still reduced the gap considerably, even if there's still a small gap somewhere around its circumference.
Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #13   Oct 14, 2010 1:14 am
Do a search, a few people here have installed them and there was even a video posted of the results. Aha! I just tried a youtube search for "Clarence Impeller Kit" and got several hits. Take a look.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
sscotsman


Joined: Dec 3, 2009
Points: 56

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #14   Nov 5, 2010 9:28 pm
Bus,
you are correct that there will probably still be a gap after the clarence kit is installed..
but the gap was MUCH larger before you installed the kit..

Lets say its winter..there is a blizzard..you open your front door wide..lots of snow comes in!
you then close the door..but you dont have a tight seal! there is a slight gap between the door and the frame of the house!
some cold air is leaking through..
but which is better? door wide open or door closed?

Basically your post reads like "I dont understand how a car engine works..that must mean cars cant work"

Scot
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #15   Nov 7, 2010 1:20 pm
I bought kit last year but am waiting to install until after my warranty has expired.  I want to see how much overall improvement my impeller pulley upgrade has had throughout this upcoming season. A short test last season showed that it got me somewhere in the 40-45 foot throwing range.  I imagine this kit may get me to 50 feet.

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Does Clarances impeller kit realy work as designed? I don't think so
Reply #16   Nov 8, 2010 9:37 pm
Many snow throwers have excessively large gaps between the impeller blades and housing.  Some as much as 3/8 to 1/2".  My old Craftsman machines were between 1/4 to 5/16 when new and likely more than that after ten years of service.  Sand and gravel will cause enough wear to increase the gap.  My new Simplicity has a much closer gap.  It looks to be around 1/8" or less.   The Clarence kit reduces or eliminates the gap  when installed and will remain that way until wear and tear removes enough rubber to create and/or enlarge the gap. 

I've never used the kit because my machine throws snow as good as anything I've seen in a hand operated snow thrower.   Anything I've read about the Clarence kit has been positive provided the machine being modified is mechanically capable of dealing with the additional load that the kit will put on the impeller. 
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