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DavidNJ


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Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Original Message   Oct 8, 2010 12:12 am

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friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #3   Oct 8, 2010 10:08 am
Are you sure that is a Nylon bearing or a nylon sleeve spacer?

Friiy

slinger


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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #4   Oct 8, 2010 10:42 am
It is a Nylon Flanged Sleeve Bearing.  Trouts2 says that these wear out way too quickly.  
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #5   Oct 8, 2010 10:50 am
Yuck....  I wonder if you can put a peice of bronze bearing stock in when if fails.?

Friiy

trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #6   Oct 8, 2010 11:08 am
Slinger, sorry if what I wrote express that.  Those bearings last but are a wear point I see all the time in older machines.  They do last and don't crapout quickly.   But roller bearings over nylon would be an advantage in a machine.  If you have a machine for a long time you'll probalby replace them once. 

Another point:  MTD uses nylong inserts on the rake ends (not talking about the support bearings), inserts on the ends of the rake.  Other manf's do not have them.  It could be to take up any chatter or slop between the rake and the axle.  It could be to get lift off the axle so it does not rust freeze to the axle.  They turn with the axle and rake unlike the support bearings which are fixed but do wear probalby from small vibrations.  I can't remember an MTD rake rust frozen to it's axle.  They don't have zerks but it may be due to the fit between the rake and the axle with using these bearings.

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DavidNJ


Joined: Sep 26, 2010
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #7   Oct 8, 2010 11:26 am
What is a 'rake'?
slinger


Joined: Sep 22, 2010
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #8   Oct 8, 2010 11:53 am
I think the easy answer is to just find a bronze flanged sleeve bearing and replace it.  There should be one available in the exact same size.  If I really wanted to I could probably find a Flange mount ball bearing block that fits the outside of the auger shaft.  I would have to drill new mounting holes in the side of the bucket for mounting, but that wouldn't be a big deal. 
DavidNJ


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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #9   Oct 8, 2010 12:32 pm
These are fairly modestly priced machines. This is apparently not a performance issue; as a wear issue, does it justify the effort and expense?
friiy


Location: Las Vegas, The Desert
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #10   Oct 8, 2010 1:00 pm
I like bronze for peple that don't take care of things .... Bronze doesn't rust and tear up the shaft...   For myself,  I like good sealed or with a grease zerk..

friiy

slinger


Joined: Sep 22, 2010
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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #11   Oct 8, 2010 1:26 pm
The bronze bearings are a drop-in $5 part.  I'm not sure of the labor, but it  doesn't appear to be ridiculous.
bdresch


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Re: Impellers and Augers, Some Pictures, Any Comments?
Reply #12   Oct 8, 2010 2:03 pm
Not sure what Ariens uses for these "plastic bushings" but bronze is not always better than "plastic" for bearings.  The company I work for uses composite bearings in many places where bronze bushings and roller element bearings were traditionally used.  You can read about some of the benefits of composite bearings here.  http://polygoncomposites.com/division/products/bushings/compare/   In applications where rotational speeds are slow (like a snow thrower rake, suspension pivot, etc) roller element bearings are overkill.  Good composite bearings need no service, are lighter, have better impact resistance, and have a better load rating than similar sized roller or bronze bearings.  They are also not affected by corrosion like steel roller bearings.  Given proper maintenance and correct sizing in the original design, a bronze or roller bearing would likely last about the same amount of time as a good composite bearing in slow moving applications, but if the customer doesn't do proper maintenance, which is often the case, the composite bearing will likely outlast bronze or roller bearings. 
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