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trouts2
Location: Marlboro MA
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SeaFoam test
Original Message Dec 26, 2009 11:52 am |
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SeaForm makes many claims about what it can do. Injector cleaner Carburetor cleaner Carbon cleaner, Fuel stabilizer Frees lifters – rings De-icer anti-jell Upper cylinder lub Dries oil and fuel Cleans carbon as you drive. Cures hesitations ,stalls, pings, and rough idle due to carbon buildup. Cleans dirty engine part internally by removing harmful gums, varnish and carbon. WORKS AND PERFORMS INSTANTLY. That’s quite a versatile list of claims. Given the repeated claim for carbon it should do something when contacting carbon. SeaFoam says 1 pint treats 25 gallons. That’s a mix of 200 to 1. If it can clean at that mix it should dissolve carbon easily at full strength. Below is a picture of carbon put in a class with full strength SeaFrom for several hours with occasional shaking. There is no breakup of the particles. The other picture of a head and piston with carbon. The loose carbon was wiped off and the rags dipped with SeaFoam and rubbed on the head and piston. The rags are slightly discolored but not from dissolved particles. The discolor is just picked up particles of carbon a rag without SeaFoam will pick up. Given that it did not dissolve carbon full strength and would not remove carbon with a rag directly on a piston and head it seems doubtful that at a mix or 200 to 1 it will do very much rushing over the head and piston of an engine. SeaFoam does not seem to do anything. What went wrong here? No dissolved carbon in the glass and only slight smudging on the rags with no removal of carbon from the head or piston after rubbing. What’s going on? If it does not do anything at full strength how can it work at 200 to 1 where only slight fraction of the 200 to 1 mix will actually contact the carbon when an engine is running
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newjerseybt
You want it done right?...You better learn how to do it yourself!
Ariens 1128DLE Ariens 8526LE Honda HRC216 Bosch 3221L Craftsman DYT4000 Stihl FS90R
Location: Honesdale, PA
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Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #36 Jan 3, 2010 10:22 pm |
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Borat: Sounds like you might be skeert to find out!</p><p>The above is pretty weird Borat , get a grip. Posed over here with all silly stuff. </p><p>You need to re-read the posts about RPMs. If you are quite positive about how Toro configures their Brigs engines RPM and have an issue with 3300 RPM then you should contact the factory reps and their tech pub department.
-------- Borat is OK...it's just a minor personality quirk. I have my own ideosynchrosies but I find I need to work at taming them else I would have a lot less friends in the world. ;') To make this Seafoam Test more scientific will take additional labor and another head gasket but will adding some in the gas tank and running the machine have different results? It may possibly work similar to water injection. Just my 2 cents.
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oldcrow
If it ain't broke, try harder
Location: Northern MI
Joined: Jan 15, 2008
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Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #37 Jan 22, 2010 1:15 am |
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Another 2-cents: Just a guess here, but could it be possible that Seafoam requires heat in order for a catalytic reaction to take place? Like, say, in a combustion chamber? As far as what the stuff does at room temp, it definitely does not seem to be any super-solvent. I'm not a Seafoam advocate, nor do I use it very often. I've tried it, but haven't been impressed with the results. Your mileage may vary. Like trouts2 said, the can claims it does everything but put on your coat and light your cigarette for you - golly gee-whiz! I didn't buy the ad copy, but I've used it a few times based upon recommendations from others. Didn't hurt, but didn't seem to help much either. I asked my brother (a marine mechanic) about this stuff once, and he told me it works OK if you have heavy carbon build-up, but there are cheaper - and more effective - decarbonizers out there. He also said save your money if you think Seafoam is going to unclog a dirty carb, refresh stale gas, or remove moisture from fuel lines. That's what he said. The guy's been in the business for over 18 years, and gets paid pretty well to know what he's doing. Although I'm no advocate, I figure the stuff must have some worth for so many folks to swear by it. One thing's for sure, though - the manufacturer is making serious money on this product. I wonder if any un-biased organization has ever really taken Seafoam's claims to task? A future Consumer Reports project, perhaps?
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whitetail
Joined: Dec 28, 2005
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Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #41 Jan 22, 2010 8:49 pm |
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The machine was running full throttle after during warm up and for over an hour it's a 2 cycle and the only way to keep plugs clean is run them. The carb was NOT cleaned it was run dry before storing . I FOLLOWED manufactures instructions on Seafoam can. When put up against another machine same course same day and only difference was Seafoam. Sled performance increased. Seafoam works for me.
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oldcrow
If it ain't broke, try harder
Location: Northern MI
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Re: SeaFoam test
Reply #42 Jan 22, 2010 11:01 pm |
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Works for some, no denying that. Not sure about the role Seafoam plays in these success stories, though. Many mechanics regard it as a decarbonizer, but the cocktail of additives muddies the water a bit. Whatever the mysterious substance is composed of, it sure does have a dedicated following. I'm not here to poke the tiger, just relating my personal experience. Over the years I've read several stories about equipt that Seafoam revitalized after prolonged periods of storage or neglect. Maybe that's what the ad copy should say? I honestly didn't observe any gains in performance whenever I used it. Regular maintenance tends to keep problems to a minimum, though - maybe that's why I didn't see the results. Seafoam did help an old street bike start easier, but I eventually had to remove the head for valve replacement. The head was really crusty, even after all the Seafoam. I had the head hot tanked, honed the cylinders, ring job, and treated the carbs to a kit. Nothing radical, just routine repairs. You want to talk about a performance gain! In my 2-strokes, it didn't dissolve the carbon as much as I had hoped, at least not in the two motors I later broke down. To be fair, both these engines were pretty tired, and had a lot of hours on them. Take it for what it's worth. If your machine screams on this stuff, then buy it by the barrel. Can't hurt to try a can before removing any parts. Just don't get your hopes up too high.
This message was modified Jan 23, 2010 by oldcrow
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