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vpr80


Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Points: 7

Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Original Message   Dec 23, 2009 11:56 am
Shoveling sucks! There I said it. Living in Norther NJ we don't get TONS of snow, but when we get it, it's usually a bunch. I am tired of shoveling my driveway so I want to get a snowblower, but just looking online at all the different options has my head spinning. My driveway is approx 30' Wide by 65' Long. It has pavers at the entry and then asphalt for the rest. It's perfectly straight with no real inclines. Imagine 2 cars wide and 3 cars long, nothing special. I also don't really like doing yard work and snow removal so I want a blower that will get the job done quickly at one time, not having to go out twice for more for a big snow storm over 12".

1) What width should I get? 26"? 28"?
2) Any particular reason to get one with tracks?
3) They all seem to have very similar features, so what should I look for?
4) Which brands are better than the rest?
5) Does someone make all of them, because a bunch look the same? Craftsman, Troy, CubCadet.
6) A friend recommended a power chute adjuster, any have this?

Last, but not least, PRICE! I want to keep it under or close to $1K. I am not interested in useless features and I prefer quality so I rather get better quality with less bells and whistles. This also means possibly getting one a bit smaller and having to walk down the driveway one extra time, but I like good quality things.

Here are the ones I found so far, but can't decide:
Craftsman: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188691000P?mv=rr
Troy: http://www.troybilt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_14102_10124_55007_-1 (Same as Craftsman?)
CubCadet: http://www.cubcadet.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_14101_145102_27656_-1_600000_42261 (Again same as Craftsman?)
Toro: http://www.toro.com/home/snowthrowers/gastwostage/828oxe.html
Simplicity: http://www.simplicitymfg.com/products/snow-throwers/large-frame-dual-stage/
Honda: http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/modeldetail.aspx?page=modeldetail&section=P2SB&modelname=HS928WAS&modelid=HS928WAS (Crazy Price!!!)
Ariens: http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_27/Pages/features.aspx

Thanks a lot!!!
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opecrazy


Joined: Oct 8, 2009
Points: 30

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #10   Dec 23, 2009 2:19 pm
Toros are nice but when comparing to other brands AND if you are on a budget they might be too expensive.  I will give you my personal experience:

This fall I was looking at buying my first snow thrower.  I looked at the three brands in this disscussion. 

Toro 828 OE

Ariens deluxe 24 and 27

Simplicity L1226E

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I ended up eliminating the Simplicity because of the electric chute.  I know that it would of worked fine but I am a person that hates gizmos that make it harder for me to fix.  Mechanical stuff seems easier to fix then a motor.  I ended up going with the Toro for $1200.  I personally like the lack of any traction mechanism.  I like to keep it simple.  The quick chute design was definitely a nice feature too.  A big issue is that I was tricked into thinking Ariens sucks from all the local OPE dealers.  The Ariens dealers didn't seem too interested in persuading me otherwise, so I basically was left with my local Toro dealer, where I bought all my other ope.

Now that I have used the machine twice (in lots of snow) the high point are:

-the chute design (very quick to use),

-the plastic components (never rust and don't clog + 5 years warranty on them,),

-and the bigger intake system that only throws the volume of snow it can throw.

So in the end I am happy with this machine and think that the points above are definitely worth considering a Toro.

If I had to do it over again though, I probably would have gone with a Ariens 24 Deluxe and kept the $300 in my pocket.  YMMV

This message was modified Dec 23, 2009 by opecrazy
vpr80


Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Points: 7

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #11   Dec 23, 2009 2:51 pm
Given the choice between the two Ariens and Toro, I think the Deluxe 27 is really the best deal for the money. Toro is nice, but too expensive.

While Auto Traction control would be nice on the Plat 24", I am fine with the Remote Locking Axle; as long as it's not pin lock.

Then as far as the Chute, can someone explain to me what the "2.5x Ice Drill" means? I assume the Platinum model has a handle right on the dash, but how does the 27" Deluxe move the chute? Looks like you need to stand on the side and crank it, doesn't seem convenient. MORE importantly, I really want to make a turn and turn the chute all in one motion without stopping.
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opecrazy


Joined: Oct 8, 2009
Points: 30

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #12   Dec 23, 2009 3:03 pm
The Ariens 27 Deluxe use a turn crank to move the chute left or right.  The "2.5x" means it takes only 2.5 turns from stop to stop.  This is really quick considering all the cheap blowers take about 6-8 turns from stop to stop.  The only thing missing is a remote cap deflector (the throwing height adjustment).  But it is not necessary and can be compensated with the chute rotation itself.

You should be able to turn the chute and turn the blower in one motion.

amazer98


Joined: Dec 7, 2009
Points: 46

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #13   Dec 23, 2009 4:20 pm
During the snowfall we had a couple of weeks ago, I had ample opportunity to use the "ice drill" control on the Ariens Deluxe 24.  It worked fine, wasn't awkward to reach, and spun the chute quickly.  That said, I do prefer the dashboard control on the Platinum-- it is even easier and quicker to use and more importantly, is MUCH easier to control the chute deflector by using another lever on the dash.

I find that when the wind is blowing, you need to constantly adjust the chute deflector downward when you make a turn and need to direct the snow windward.  If you don't deflect down, the snow shoots up and is whipped into a cloud that blows back into your face and body and quickly frosts you.  It is a bit of a nuisance to have to keep reaching forward and bend over the machine to adjust the deflector manually up and down every 30 seconds.  Then again, doing that is still a whole lot easier than shoveling the driveway!

As you can see, there's not one "right" snowblower.  You gotta make judgment calls based on price vs features.  I think that it's a hard call between the Deluxe 27 and the Platinum 24... but I'm glad I went with the Platinum.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #14   Dec 23, 2009 4:26 pm
amazer98 wrote:
During the snowfall we had a couple of weeks ago, I had ample opportunity to use the "ice drill" control on the Ariens Deluxe 24.  It worked fine, wasn't awkward to reach, and spun the chute quickly.  That said, I do prefer the dashboard control on the Platinum-- it is even easier and quicker to use and more importantly, is MUCH easier to control the chute deflector by using another lever on the dash.


As much as I like the the Toro Quickstick integrated rotation and deflector adjustment in one joystick,  I'm glad I have independent lever for adjusting deflector angle.  More precise and direct.   I can place the snow discharge exactly where I want to, just not as quick.
vpr80


Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Points: 7

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #15   Dec 23, 2009 4:27 pm
That's what I'm thinking. While the bigger 27" is good, I want the easy chute controls. I also just saw videos of the Toro 828 in action with their control and it's awesome how easy it is to maneuver and adjust.

I guess the Ariens Deluxe Platinum 24" is the one for me. Got the features I want and closest to what I wanted to spend.

Thanks guys!
amazer98


Joined: Dec 7, 2009
Points: 46

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #16   Dec 23, 2009 4:38 pm
You will love the Plat 24-- let us know how it works out.  By the way, I read somewhere in this forum (I think) that Toro was having problems with its plastic chutes breaking.  I forget how they failed, so take this with a grain of salt.  Anyway, I expect that the company has remedied the problem by now.  For what it's worth, I can't figure out why Toros are so expensive.

Another advantage of Ariens is their 3 year warranty.
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #17   Dec 23, 2009 4:38 pm
Yes, when the wind is blowing snow back at your face, the last thing  you want to do is reach forward to adjust that deflector while snow is spewing out.

Plus, if you want to install a snow cab later on, a remote deflector adjustment lever makes a lot of sense.  Who wants to get out of the snow cab to adjust that darn deflector?
amazer98


Joined: Dec 7, 2009
Points: 46

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #18   Dec 23, 2009 4:44 pm
I thought that Ariens made snow cabs only for 27"models and bigger, but according to their website, you can also get them for 24" units.  Still, I prefer to be out in the open when dealing with the elements.
This message was modified Dec 24, 2009 by amazer98
aa335


Joined: Nov 29, 2008
Points: 2434

Re: Yet Another Newbie! Need help picking a Snowblower.
Reply #19   Dec 25, 2009 12:18 am
I like being outside with the elements too.  I don't like when the elements come back to my face wet and cold.  Not so enjoyable to be blasted when I'm outside for more than half an hour.
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