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In my 826oe user manual it doesn't explicitly state not to shift while engaging the traction lever.  It just states to release the lever and then shift. 

I think this is to keep it simple and not confuse customers.  The only way to have a negative impact on the friction disk if someone shifts between forward and reverse speeds without coming to a stop first.  But if you shift between forward speeds, or only between the backwards speeds you will be fine.

There is also the risk that the lever might "slip" into the wrong gear and start going into a direction the user was not expecting (or a speed that wasn't expected).  By keeping the two actions separate Toro is covering their behind in terms of safety.  We all know that there are idiots out there that can find a new way to get hurt.

At least that is what I think.

Toro is a premium machine while Troy-Bilt (MTD) is at the bottom of the list.  There is no comparison, Toro hands down.

If you need a machine with tracks, take a look at the Ariens machines.  They have tracks that are much more affordable then Honda.

Check out these other two brands in your area:

Simplicity
Ariens


Toro, Simplicity, and Ariens make products that are far superior then anything MTD has.  MTD makes many snow thrower under multiple brand names.  They make snow throwers for: Craftsman, Troy-Bilt, Yard-Machines, Cub Cadet, Bolens....etc

Brands like Husqvarna and Snapper are in between the premium brands and the MTD offerings.  Some Craftsman models are made by Husqvarna.

Honda are generally regarded as the top of the line snow thrower, but they have a price to match.

I like how you think Catt!!!!


Whats the problem with mixing the fuel beforehand?  Unless you are away for really long periods of time, then get a 4 stroke Toro.  They are only marginally heavier.  What ever you do..... don't get the electrical version.  You will end up hating it.  Its really only meant for decks... and close areas near the house.

Since saving money is always a good thing.... this is what I would do:

Maybe get an Ariens Track model for you....( since it sounds like you need the traction) and then get the wife something else.  Whatever she ends up liking.   It could be a small two stage or a single stage.

Just my humble thoughts. 

MTD still makes a track blower.  It is under the Troy-Bilt name at any local Lowes Home Improvement store.  What ever you do Steve, don't get an MTD.  It sucks, especially in slush.  If the Toro couldn't throw your slush then the MTD will not throw anything in your conditions.

Which makes me really surprised that the Toro didn't throw the slush.  I bought a 826oe and it threw 6-8 inches of slush 10-15 feet.  Maybe something was adjusted wrong?  I personally would get a single stage Toro and the dual stage 1028oxe.  The little Toro will be much easier to use for the wife but in worse case scenario she can always pull out the bigger machine.

I also think that Honda are definitely at the top in terms of engineering.  Not so much that their engines are special but the whole package instead.  Especially the hydrostatic transmission.

I haven't personally used any Hondas but I think the track units are more deserving of the high price tag.   In the severe climates, the combination of tracks and hydro transmission make them perfect for tricky terrain and demanding conditions.

Personally I don't think I will every afford a new Honda or justify the expense.  At this point in time I think Toro, Simplicity, and Ariens make better value alternatives.  Especially if one is considering a wheel unit.

Having said that I like working on stuff.  So I am currently looking for a used Honda.  Buying used will be the only way I can justify the price!