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Marshall


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Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Original Message   Jan 21, 2005 12:34 pm
What is everyones opinion on the use of fuel additives, especially in today OHV OPE engines?

Example:

Lucas Fuel Treatment

Lucas Fuel Treatment

A powerful blend of oils and additives that contain no SOLVENTS. Designed to increase power and fuel mileage and also lower exhaust emissions through a more complete combustion. 

Lucas Fuel Treatment is formulated for both gasoline and diesel engines, carbureted or fuel injected. It gives your fuel system what it really needs - a blend of super slick oils and additives with a high detergent action that allows the engine to operate at maximum efficiency. Also, it cleans and lubricates the carburetor and injectors and causes the fuel to burn more thoroughly for increased power and less fuel consumption. Lucas Fuel Treatment should definitely be used in vehicles that require leaded fuel because it actually replaces the benefits of lead in gasoline without causing harmful emissions. Use it to pass smog tests. Finally, it totally neutralizes the harmful effects of low sulfur diesel fuel.

Key Benefits

  • A great tune-up in a bottle
  • Cleans and lubricates the fuel system
  • Neutralizes low sulfur fuel problems
  • Increases power and miles per gallon by burning excess exhaust emissions
  • Increases the life of pumps and injectors
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mml4


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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #9   Jan 21, 2005 11:15 pm
I was told by my local OPE dealer that there is a direct relationship between compression and the need for higher octane to prevent pre-ignition. I was told the higher the compression the higher the octane necessary. He said to use no lower than 89 in  2cycle equiptment and that all the 4cycle he had sold in the last ten years required only 87.

I started using SeaFoam in my lawn equiptment last spring after reading the recomendation by Tecumseh Man. The stuff seems to have had a beneficial effect on my carburetors as the transition from low to high is definitely smoother in both 2 and 4 cycle engines. I have also used the spray in some really balky poorly maintained engines belonging to friends and in SOME cases a rebuild was avoided. We are talking carburetor rebuild.

Don't you just hate gummed up carburetors? I've had to unmount the engine on some lawn mowers just to get the carb off! The government needs to put adjustable jets back on ope and mandate designs where removing a carburetor takes no more than 2min.if they are going to keep making us use this $hitty gas that can't sit for more than a month without deteriorating. Put that plank in your platform Mr. Politician and you just might get my vote!  While you are at it how about repealing the really stupid laws that are causing the demise of 2 cycle ope?

Marc

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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #10   Jan 22, 2005 12:04 am
That explains it all.  Thanks Marc.  It is disgusting how some engine manufacturers are mounting the carbs on engines.  Probably just so we have to take them in to be easier on ourselves.
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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #11   Jan 22, 2005 12:27 am
I don't know much about additives vs. octane level. My JD Mower says using higher than 87 (89?) octane can cause permanent damage to the engine. (for what it's worth) Walt
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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #12   Jan 22, 2005 12:35 am
My new Stihl FS250R Trimmer requires the use of premium octane which I think is 92. The reason is because the engine is a high performance 40.2cc engine. If you try to use 87 octane, it will makes lots of pops sounds and it won't rev up right. Meaning it acts like its boggin down before it lets itself rev up. Just like a race car engine. We are talking v8 up to v12. You would not put standard 87 unleaded octane would you? Back in my old days, which is the 80's, 87 octane regular unleaded was much higher quality, and if you used 92 it would burn up your engine. Now days, that could never happen. Also becaues of the bad quality of gas we have now days, we have to use Stabil or Pri-G.


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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #13   Jan 22, 2005 12:35 am
The Honda owner's manual reads "Use unleaded gasoline with a pump octane of 86 or higher"

I use 91 octane with Sta-bil   ( I need to get Some Pri-G).

                                                               18 Degrees

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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #14   Jan 22, 2005 4:59 pm
18Degrees wrote:
The Honda owner's manual reads "Use unleaded gasoline with a pump octane of 86 or higher"

I use 91 octane with Sta-bil   ( I need to get Some Pri-G).

                                                               18 Degrees


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Re: Fuel Additives in OPE.....?
Reply #15   Feb 27, 2006 2:37 pm
AJace wrote:
... Exxon seems to be the best right now, and is closest to me.  Recently Hess seemed to be rated the highest ...

Where are you finding the ratings for the various gasoline brands? I tried a couple of Google searchs but did not find anything useful.

Will
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