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lland


Joined: Sep 17, 2002
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Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Original Message   Jan 23, 2005 8:43 pm
We have a function to go to yesterday.  It's snowing the whole time and when I get home there's about eight inches on the ground.  earlier in the day I was all psyched to get a blowin' but when I got home, I felt terrible and went to bet early.

I'm kind of glad I didn't clear the driveway because when I wake up, there's twice as much snow and all of the dirves that were cleared are once again, covered.  So, I go out, spend ten minutes trying to fire up the Toro before I realize I have the fuel shut-off valve on "off."  I turn it on and the 'Ol Tec starts with one pull. 

The snow is around fifteen inches deep but some drifts were three to four feet and the EOD was about three feet of pretty heavily packed snow.  El Toro handles it all in stride until I get to the right side of the EOD when I am immediately reminded of the email I recevied from Toro a while back:

"Toro snow throwers do not have shear pins.  The reason for this is if you hit something while snow throwing, the auger and engine will stop letting you know that something is wrong.  You can then remove whatever it was that you hit, start up the machine, and continue snow throwing.  If the snow thrower had shear pins, they would need to be replaced before starting the snow thrower again."

With all the snow, who expected the paper to be delivered...and the SUNDAY paper at that.  Well, true to Toro's word, the machine ingested the paper and stopped immediatley (I guess the shearless system works).  I didn't even have to look, I knew what had happened.  So, when I gor around to the front, there in all it's shredded glory is the Sunday paper jammed tight between the auger, impeller and housing.  A big screwdriver (the tool, not the drink), a sharp utility knife, and about thirty minutes of pulling out bits of paper, I get it a bit looser.  I figured since the machine got itself into this trouble, let it get itself out.  I start her up, release the auger and out flies shredded newspaper, not unlike the skiier who fell into the bug snowblower in James Bond's "On Her Majesty's Secret Service."

I get the driveway done, a couple of hundred feet of walk, and figure I'll do the paver walks and patio in back so the dogs will have a place to run around other than the deep snow.  While going along the sitting wall, the machine (apparently still hungry after eating the paper) scoops up about sixty feet of previously unseed low voltage wire.  This time the machine just snaps the wire and keeps running but I stop to look.  There it is, wrapped around the auger.  Off it comes, and blowing continues with no more events.  Overall, a good day.

LL

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #24   Feb 6, 2009 1:58 pm
Bought it for $300.00?  More like stole it for that price!  Good deal.

By the way, a grade five bolt is pretty much the same as a shear pin, so the hardware man tells me. 

 I  had to do a mercy call the other day for a buddy's sister, a single mom who had  been fleeced by a small motor mechanic.  She has a late '70s Craftsman machine that's worth MAYBE $150.00.  The machine wasn't running right so her brother recommends this authorized small engine mechanic (friend) to fix it. One week and $580.00 later she gets the machine back.  Her teenage son fires it up  for a few seconds and it runs OK so they shut it down right away and put it in the shed.  This is around September.  She's hurt by the amount she had to pay the guy but does so any way.  The first big snow we get,  they try to fire up the machine and it won't run.  It will fire up but dies soon afterward.   So they shovel snow by hand for six weeks until the brother tells me of his sister's situation.  I immediately tell him  to bring it back to the mechanic who skinned his sister and get him to fix it.  Well, he's timid and his sister is as well. so they don't want to confront the thief, rip off artist, gouging, crook mechanic.   I agreed to look at the machine for them.    I drained the float bowl and it was full of grit.  I clean it out then get the machine running.  It runs for a while then stops.  I fire it up with the fuel cap loose and it runs fine.  I clear ice and dirt from the vent in the fuel cap and all is well with the engine performance.  I test the machine on a snow bank and notice only one auger is turning.  Sure enough, it has no shear pin in it.  We head to the hardware store and get the grade five bolt to use instead of a shear bolt (as per hardware man's recommendation).  Now the machine is running great. 

I still have trouble controlling my temper when I think of that mechanic (supposedly a family friend) ripping off a single mom, with very little income.  To add insult to injury, it was her brother that recommended the thief.  I asked him what was going through his head and why he didn't confront the guy concerning his sister being so badly gouged.   He said the guy's an old family friend and he wasn't comfortable getting in his face over it.  That's some friend. .....  Needless to say, they won't be going back to him.  

Santaclause


Location: northern NY
Joined: Jan 18, 2009
Points: 48

Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #25   Feb 9, 2009 8:19 am
i have a Toro 1332 power shift doesnt run right now but in the 10 years I used it I never had any trouble with shear bolts was told by the dealer it didnt have shear bolts and the thing would plow through anything. I bought a cub cadet 930 two weeks ago but am thinking about getting toro fixed and hanging on to it for back up and to see how the cub is going to perform we havent had any snow to speak of since I bought it ,used it once.
PACKO


Joined: Nov 19, 2008
Points: 70

Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #26   Feb 9, 2009 5:09 pm
This is what caused my "non- shear bolt " to break.  Cast iron approximately 7" across and one piece until I  broke it.

Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #27   Feb 9, 2009 7:28 pm
borat wrote:
Bought it for $300.00?  More like stole it for that price!  Good deal.

By the way, a grade five bolt is pretty much the same as a shear pin, so the hardware man tells me. 

 I  had to do a mercy call the other day for a buddy's sister, a single mom who had  been fleeced by a small motor mechanic.  She has a late '70s Craftsman machine that's worth MAYBE $150.00.  The machine wasn't running right so her brother recommends this authorized small engine mechanic (friend) to fix it. One week and $580.00 later she gets the machine back.  Her teenage son fires it up  for a few seconds and it runs OK so they shut it down right away and put it in the shed.  This is around September.  She's hurt by the amount she had to pay the guy but does so any way.  The first big snow we get,  they try to fire up the machine and it won't run.  It will fire up but dies soon afterward.   So they shovel snow by hand for six weeks until the brother tells me of his sister's situation.  I immediately tell him  to bring it back to the mechanic who skinned his sister and get him to fix it.  Well, he's timid and his sister is as well. so they don't want to confront the thief, rip off artist, gouging, crook mechanic.   I agreed to look at the machine for them.    I drained the float bowl and it was full of grit.  I clean it out then get the machine running.  It runs for a while then stops.  I fire it up with the fuel cap loose and it runs fine.  I clear ice and dirt from the vent in the fuel cap and all is well with the engine performance.  I test the machine on a snow bank and notice only one auger is turning.  Sure enough, it has no shear pin in it.  We head to the hardware store and get the grade five bolt to use instead of a shear bolt (as per hardware man's recommendation).  Now the machine is running great. 

I still have trouble controlling my temper when I think of that mechanic (supposedly a family friend) ripping off a single mom, with very little income.  To add insult to injury, it was her brother that recommended the thief.  I asked him what was going through his head and why he didn't confront the guy concerning his sister being so badly gouged.   He said the guy's an old family friend and he wasn't comfortable getting in his face over it.  That's some friend. .....  Needless to say, they won't be going back to him.  


I'm curious...exactly what DID the mechanic do for $580.    I hate hearing stories like this but I guess they happen all the time.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Shear bolts? I don't need no stinkin' shear bolts!
Reply #28   Feb 10, 2009 7:52 pm
I'm curious...exactly what DID the mechanic do for $580. 

According to the woman's brother, he replaced points & condenser, spark plug & oil and put a set of chains on the wheels.  She needs the chains like a kick in the a$$.  Her driveway is flat and paved.   I'd say with the cost of the chains at around $50.00,  points, condenser, plug & oil, maybe $35.00, and an hour & a half labour at $80.00/hr the bill shouldn't have been too much over $200.00.  She was an uninformed and trusting victim and the pr!ck stuck it to her.   If it were my sister, the rip off artist would have inherited an old snow thrower.   Needless to say, he's no longer a family friend.  

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