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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
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Portable Generator
Original Message   Jan 7, 2009 1:36 am
Before I ask my question, are they on-topic for this forum?

If they are, I'll come back and edit it into this post. If not, can anyone recommend another place?


Edit, the next day: Thanks, I'll post my Q below!
This message was modified Jan 7, 2009 by Bill_H


Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #11   Jan 14, 2009 2:24 pm
Kubota make some of the best generators available.  Their diesels are pricey but phenomenally long lived.   I have one at my camp that's 26 years old with over 7500 hours on it.  Kubota also make gasoline units.  You should at least check them out. 
hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #12   Jan 14, 2009 6:21 pm
I was at a Costco store a weeek or two ago. They carried three portables and one of them was a HONDA. Don't remember the price nor the capacity.I went online but they don't show it. I guess it was only available in store.
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xenorias


Location: Sainte-Sophie, Quebec, Canada
Joined: Jan 7, 2009
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Re: Portable Generator
Reply #13   Jan 16, 2009 11:46 am
Be very careful when buying expensive pieces of equipment from Costco!

They actually have special lines of products made just for them. Sometimes, you will see equiment or electronics with "obscure" brand names, or big brand names like Honda, in this case, but with lesser quality.

snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #14   Jan 16, 2009 11:56 am
I'm in the market for a 2K-2.5K portable generator.

I had considered a Robin Subaru R1700i but I need 2K minimum.

http://www.robinamerica.com/pfeatures.aspx?pid=74

It's now a toss up between the Honda EU2000i or the Yamaha EF2400iS

http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/modeldetail.aspx?page=modeldetail&section=P2GG&modelname=EU2000i&modelid=EU2000IAN

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/products/modelhome/475/0/home.aspx

I like the higher output of the Yamaha but it's about 25 lbs more than the Honda. It appears sound-wise they are the same. It appears the Honda has a longer potential runtime as well. I am leaning toward the Honda but the Yamaha is appealing as well.

Anyone have any + or - experiences with the above listed Honda or Yamaha product?

Thanks!

HTTPs://ouppes.com
GaryBy


Location: Massachusetts
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Points: 22

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #15   Jan 16, 2009 8:04 pm
For what it's worth: We have a 5K Generac (6250 peak), and it did the job.  However, perhaps because we upgraded our well pump to 1/2 HP, we get very visible brownouts whenever the pump starts.  We use it to power the pump, the heating system (forced hot water by oil), refrigerator, microwave, smoke detectors, and one set of outlets (lights and computers).  It's not the entire house, but it's enough to keep us comfortable.  Because of the brownouts, we're looking at upgrading the generator.   Given that the generator ought to last at least ten years, I'd consider spending an extra couple of hundred to get one with more than 5KW. 

For what it's worth:  Ace Hardware carries B&S generators, though you may need to order it online and get it shipped to a nearby store.  The 6200w model, with battery start, runs $1K.
Paul7


Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Points: 452

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #16   Jan 16, 2009 10:18 pm
snowmachine wrote:
I'm in the market for a 2K-2.5K portable generator.

I had considered a Robin Subaru R1700i but I need 2K minimum.

http://www.robinamerica.com/pfeatures.aspx?pid=74

It's now a toss up between the Honda EU2000i or the Yamaha EF2400iS

http://www.hondapowerequipment.com/products/modeldetail.aspx?page=modeldetail&section=P2GG&modelname=EU2000i&modelid=EU2000IAN

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outdoor/products/modelhome/475/0/home.aspx

I like the higher output of the Yamaha but it's about 25 lbs more than the Honda. It appears sound-wise they are the same. It appears the Honda has a longer potential runtime as well. I am leaning toward the Honda but the Yamaha is appealing as well.

Anyone have any + or - experiences with the above listed Honda or Yamaha product?

Thanks!

Check out the reviews from Camping Life.

http://www.campinglife.com/output.cfm?ID=1112113
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Bill_H


Location: Maine
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
Points: 354

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #17   Jan 17, 2009 1:13 am
Good info, GaryBy, Thanks!

Also FWIW, I'd check the amp draw & voltage drop when that well pump starts, as too low a voltage could damage something in the house (some motors will overheat), and too much of a draw could hurt the genny - but if you're not tripping a breaker it may not be too much current. If they're on different breakers on the genny you could draw too much without tripping any breaker. Don't forget that as voltage drops, some electrics will draw more current to obtain/maintain constant power, which only makes it worse.

I had borrowed a 5K Coleman once during a power failure here and it ran my well and furnace OK, but I never checked them at the same time the refrigerator was running. That's why I'm looking for something just a bit bigger, those 3 are the necessities, anything else is a luxury. When I first powered the house up with it - after 28 hours with no power - I shut down the breaker for the furnace and well. Once the refrigerator was up and running and the sump pump finished, I powered on the well, waited till the well pump shut down and finally put on the furnace. Furnace last because I knew there would be an oil burner and 3 circ pumps running at once - the other 2 were used later.

Who the hell let all the morning people run things?
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #18   Jan 17, 2009 10:13 am
Paul7 wrote:
Check out the reviews from <span style="font-style: italic;">Camping Life</span>.<BR><BR>http://www.campinglife.com/output.cfm?ID=1112113

Thanks! Actually this article had started out my research. Just curious if anyone had any of these models here.

I think I am going to go with the Honda. I need to do some startup wattage testing on my refrigerator and freezer to ensure it will be able to power them at least individually. I noticed I can get it with a LP gas conversion as well.

I picked up one of these inexpensive wattage meters.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882715001

HTTPs://ouppes.com
GaryBy


Location: Massachusetts
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Points: 22

Re: Portable Generator
Reply #19   Jan 17, 2009 2:30 pm
Bill_H wrote:
Good info, GaryBy, Thanks!

Also FWIW, I'd check the amp draw & voltage drop when that well pump starts, as too low a voltage could damage something in the house (some motors will overheat), and too much of a draw could hurt the genny - but if you're not tripping a breaker it may not be too much current. If they're on different breakers on the genny you could draw too much without tripping any breaker. Don't forget that as voltage drops, some electrics will draw more current to obtain/maintain constant power, which only makes it worse.

I had borrowed a 5K Coleman once during a power failure here and it ran my well and furnace OK, but I never checked them at the same time the refrigerator was running. That's why I'm looking for something just a bit bigger, those 3 are the necessities, anything else is a luxury. When I first powered the house up with it - after 28 hours with no power - I shut down the breaker for the furnace and well. Once the refrigerator was up and running and the sump pump finished, I powered on the well, waited till the well pump shut down and finally put on the furnace. Furnace last because I knew there would be an oil burner and 3 circ pumps running at once - the other 2 were used later.

My recollection is that the boiler (oil burner + 2 circulating pumps) didn't seem to cause as much as a dip as the microwave, and certainly not the refrigerator.  Since we weren't running the generator 24 hours, the refrigerator really wanted to be running whenever it had power.  After a couple of days of just adapting to life without external power, I wound up toggling things at the transfer panel to reduce the chance of problems.  Fortunately, our well pump usage is fairly predictable.

Now if only we had had the deep freeze right after the ice storm.  Then I could have emptied the freezer and stored it all outside.
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