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daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Original Message   Jan 4, 2009 9:30 am
Hello! Newbie here. New to this snow scene too having just moved to the Northeast from a warmer climate. I've pretty much decided going the route of a walk-behind blower versus a front blade on the Deere due to expense and convenience. I've looked at several walk-behinds and for my modest needs the Simplicity looks well put together for the money. 

I have my eye on a new Simplicity that the dealer claims is a model 755M. That's fine, however I can't seem to find ANY information on the 755 models either "E" or "M".  I've done both the Internet search and in this forum as well. The only info I can find is out on the Simplicity website and it appears from their posted manuals this model hasn't been made since the turn of the century (around 2000)! I'm thnking that can't be right.......what am I missing?? I'm okay with picking up a new prior year blower if it's a solid machine and the price is right. I just need to be able to blow wet snow a few times a year.

This dealer was very helpful and spent a lot of time with me going through all of the ins and outs of snowblowing. I noted too that the sales borchure he handed me has a model i7524e listed as the closest match to what was on the showroom floor. Finally, the sale price is $999 plus tax lubed and delivered. Good deal or not???

Sorry for being long winded. I plan on calling the dealer back this week with this concern, but any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!

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borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #1   Jan 4, 2009 10:04 am
I've never heard of that model.   I've never studied the history of Simplicity snow throwers either  so my ignorance doesn't  mean much.   What kind of features does the machine have?  Does it have Easy Steer, and single hand operation? What does it have for an engine?   The price seems steep for a ten year old machine.   Can you get a picture of one and post it?
daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #2   Jan 4, 2009 10:31 am
borat wrote:
I've never heard of that model.   I've never studied the history of Simplicity snow throwers either  so my ignorance doesn't  mean much.   What kind of features does the machine have?  Does it have Easy Steer, and single hand operation? What does it have for an engine?   The price seems steep for a ten year old machine.   Can you get a picture of one and post it?



Hmm, good questions. It looks exactly like the i7524e in the brochure I received and from I what I remember as the dealer went over the machine yesterday he pointed out it has Free Hand Control, OHV B&S engine, 15" tires, and 5forward/ 2 Reverse speeds. Of courese it doesn't have electric start either as he referred to it as a "M" model. He even wrote down 755M with the price on the brochure he handed me. This has got me bugged now.

I agree, price does seem high. After searching around on the Internet the morning, it appears a new i7524e can be easily had for suggested retail of $899.99.

Here's a link to a pic and features of the i7524e, which looks just like the "755M";

http://www.mayberrys.biz/html/brands/simplicity/twostageintermediate.php

And here's a link to a 755 Operators Manual out on Simplicity's website, which is a June, 1999 revision;

http://www.simplicitymfg.com/document/index.cfm?doc=TP_100_2253_00_IW_S_LO.pdf

Soooo............what do you think of the Simplicity i7524e?? I saw an earlier related thread with the word "kabam" in the subject line....... 

mml4


Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #3   Jan 4, 2009 10:38 am
daequitz-

The 755M is Simplicity model#1693982. In the manual I saw on line it said that the document had been revised in 2003. It describes the unit as a medium frame 2 stage. The M stands for manual start and indicates the unit with the M designation was for export. That doesen't mean it wasn't used domesticaly just that the E model wasn't exported because of the starter being 110 volts.

The interesting thing is that the catalog lists two possible engines. An ohv Briggs and a L-head Tecumseh. If the unit you are looking at is the Briggs I would consider that an advantage.

The 755E has the model #1693983.  

If it has a differential or remote wheel disconnect feature and is the Briggs powered unit I think $999 is a top dollar price.It certainly isn't a bargain as even though new it is a discontinued model of 5 or more years. If it were Tecumseh powered I wouldn't consider it at all unless he made me an offer in the $600 range. It's not that I don't like Tecumseh but they just went out of the Engine business.

For a$1000 dollars I would be looking at current production units of the Simplicity,Snapper,John Deere,Toro or Ariens Brands.

Marc 

This message was modified Jan 4, 2009 by mml4


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MacLorry27


Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Points: 54

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #4   Jan 4, 2009 10:43 am

Here’s a web site that had information on the 755M and even sells parts.

http://www.sepw.com/pages/Simplicity/large_snow_blowers.htm

borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #5   Jan 4, 2009 10:44 am
Something doesn't sound right with the age of the machine.   Sounds like someone has their wires crossed.  That machine can't be that old.  I believe Sears sell that same machine but it's a Snapper brand which is the same as the Simplicity.  Both are manufactured by the same outfit.  You might want to compare the machine you're looking at to the Sear Snapper.  Might save a few bucks. 
mml4


Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #6   Jan 4, 2009 11:09 am
Daequitz-

The plot thickens!

There are two 755M models listed by Simplicity-#1693982 & #1694836. The 1694836 is a model from 2005 or later and is listed as 7.5 hp while the # 1693982 is listed as 2003. If you get to the point of purchase you need to look at the Manual that comes with the machine and look for the print date and whether it is 2005 / 2003. There is also a possibility that the manual will have an earlier print date because the 2003 date was indicated as a revision of an earlier manual.

Marc

SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #7   Jan 4, 2009 11:18 am
mml4 wrote:
daequitz-

The 755M is Simplicity model#1693982. In the manual I saw on line it said that the document had been revised in 2003. It describes the unit as a medium frame 2 stage. The M stands for manual start and indicates the unit with the M designation was for export. That doesen't mean it wasn't used domesticaly just that the E model wasn't exported because of the starter being 110 volts.

The interesting thing is that the catalog lists two possible engines. An ohv Briggs and a L-head Tecumseh. If the unit you are looking at is the Briggs I would consider that an advantage.

The 755E has the model #1693983.  

If it has a differential or remote wheel disconnect feature and is the Briggs powered unit I think $999 is a top dollar price.It certainly isn't a bargain as even though new it is a discontinued model of 5 or more years. If it were Tecumseh powered I wouldn't consider it at all unless he made me an offer in the $600 range. It's not that I don't like Tecumseh but they just went out of the Engine business.

For a$1000 dollars I would be looking at current production units of the Simplicity,Snapper,John Deere,Toro or Ariens Brands.

Marc 


Thanks Marc. It appears I missed that manual. I've just got to get the straight scoop from the Dealer on this. I'll ask him to read off the mfg number and model# on Monday. I'm pretty sure the dealer said the engine is a B&S , but it appears the manual also references an OHV Tecumseh.

So here's a theory that's bouncing around in my head; I'm wondering if the dealers up here (Eastern, PA) have sold out of their current model year inventories (this is probably a popular size for this area) and are breaking out prior year left overs and charging full price? Heck, I haven't been up here long enough to know how this works.

Thanks again to all for your feedback.

daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #8   Jan 4, 2009 11:34 am
MacLorry27 wrote:

Here’s a web site that had information on the 755M and even sells parts.

http://www.sepw.com/pages/Simplicity/large_snow_blowers.htm



Excellent. This is the first spec sheet I've seen. I noticed there appears to be a extra "5" in their listed model number. I wonder if that's been my problem - the dealer left out a "5". I see this Operators Manual is dated 2005. It also lists the engine as a only B&S for the OHV. Getting closer to current........Thanks!
mml4


Snow is good,
Deep snow is better!


Joined: Dec 31, 2003
Points: 544

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #9   Jan 4, 2009 3:37 pm
daequitz wrote:
 I'm pretty sure the dealer said the engine is a B&S , but it appears the manual also references an OHV Tecumseh.


Daequitz-  Be cautiousIf it's a Tecumseh  - The 2003 Manual references an L-head Tecumseh which is not an OHV. Not an issue if it is Briggs powered.

In addition look carefully at  the SEPW advertisement- in addition to using an extra 5 they also tell you to call for current models and pricing as well. I wouldn't be shocked to find they don't have a 755 for sale although I may be overly cautious/cynical.

Marc

This message was modified Jan 4, 2009 by mml4


SnapperV210P,Toro22177,TroyBilt42010Snowthrower,Craftsman Shredder,American Turbo Pressure Washer HondaGX200,Stihl011Saw,EchoPas260Trimmer Edger,EchoPB602Blower,EchoHCR150Hedge Clipper
MacLorry27


Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Points: 54

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #10   Jan 4, 2009 4:44 pm
daequitz wrote:
Excellent. This is the first spec sheet I've seen. I noticed there appears to be a extra "5" in their listed model number. I wonder if that's been my problem - the dealer left out a "5". I see this Operators Manual is dated 2005. It also lists the engine as a only B&S for the OHV. Getting closer to current........Thanks!

Yes, it should be 7555M.  Here are two more sites with mostly the same information, but they also have the list price.

http://www.snowblowerguide.com/index.php/Simplicity-Snowblowers/Simplicity-Intermediate-Two-Stage-7555M.html

http://www.decorahkawasakisuzuki.com/simp_snowt_inter.html

daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #11   Jan 4, 2009 8:50 pm
This just gets better and better. Finally, I've got a list price to compare to as a point of reference. Well,  I've got a running list of questions for the dealer. There may be a sound explanation and rationale for all of this. Regardless, this thread has been a huge help. I suppose I'm learning as I go. +++++++
daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 7555M - Good Price? What's Electric Start Worth?
Reply #12   Jan 6, 2009 8:01 pm
Okay, got the skinny from the dealer today on the aforementioned Blower. It's a 7555M (model 1694836).  After further discussion, he knocked the price down to $929. Couldn't get him to throw in an hour meter.

Sooooo, and perhaps I should start a new thread with this question; As I found a newer model I924E across town for $999 do you think it's worth the extra $70 to have the electric start? That's really the only big diff I see. Do you guys really rely on/use your electric start???

Thanks!

Coldfingers


Joined: Nov 20, 2008
Points: 84

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #13   Jan 6, 2009 8:07 pm
I have one with electric start and one without and I wouldn't buy another one without it. You get spoiled!!
hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Help; New Simplicity 7555M - Good Price? What's Electric Start Worth?
Reply #14   Jan 6, 2009 8:25 pm
daequitz wrote:
 Do you guys really rely on/use your electric start???

I have an Ariens for four years and have never used it. one or two pulls on the rope start and shes purring.I think my snowblower has a  pressure release valve which is great so theres no pulling out your shoulder to get it started.
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Snowmann


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Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #15   Jan 6, 2009 8:29 pm
$929 seems pricey to me. A 10" impeller, 12" rakes, small displacement engine (205cc), 13" tires... Kind of a scrawny little thing for that much money. There are machines with much more substance available in the ~$1000 range.... Anywhere really.

PK
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #16   Jan 6, 2009 8:45 pm
Snowmann wrote:
$929 seems pricey to me. A 10" impeller, 12" rakes, small displacement engine (205cc), 13" tires... Kind of a scrawny little thing for that much money. There are machines with much more substance available in the ~$1000 range.... Anywhere really.

PK

I agree.  That's a $700.00 machine at best.   Simplicity must have hired the marketing director from Toro to sell that model.  More name than machine....
daequitz


Location: Keystone State
Joined: Jan 4, 2009
Points: 10

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #17   Jan 8, 2009 9:11 pm
borat wrote:
I agree.  That's a $700.00 machine at best.   Simplicity must have hired the marketing director from Toro to sell that model.  More name than machine....


I agree. I've moved on. I'm still learning. Just found out too the walk-behind units with the locked axle can be a bear to turn. And why did Simplicity discontinue their Free Hand control on the their new model 924 Intermediate replacement?? The prior year models all had it.......I had a John Deere dealer tell me today that Deere doesn't sell snow throwers anymore? It appears you can still buy one off of the Deere website, although I didn't push the "buy" botton so I'm not sure what would happen if you tried. Still looking.........hmm, what about an Ariens 924 DLE with the Tecumseh Snow King engine?
hirschallan


If it aint broke don't fix it !!


Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Help; New Simplicity 755M - Museum Piece? Price?
Reply #18   Jan 9, 2009 2:31 am
Just saw JD 1130 snowblower at LOWES tonight for $1499.00
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