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Clay


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Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Original Message   Dec 8, 2008 1:15 pm
I have made a few comments about this machine in a couple of other posts, but wanted to do a review on a stand alone thread. 

I want this thread to be a place where I can log some ongoing experiences with this machine since it is really new.  I purchased it 12-1-08.  First let's look at the specs.  I pulled these right off of the Sears website:

Product Overview:
Stages:Two stage
Stages:Two stage
Item Weight:293.0 lbs.
General Warranty:2 year limited
Chute System:
Directional Chute Control:Yes
Chute Material:Steel
Chute Rotation:Yes, single motion
Maximum Chute Rotation:180 deg.
General Features:
Impeller Diameter:12 in.
Auger Style:Serrated drum
Auger Type:Curved blade
Number of Rotor Blades:3
Snow Dispersal:Impeller
Drive System:
Propulsion Type:Wheel engagement
Speeds, Forward:6
Speeds, Reverse:2
Motor-Engine:
Amps:1.5
Engine Brand:Briggs & StrattonŽ
Series:1450 Series
Electric Start:Yes
Starter Type:Electric
Torque Ft./Lbs.:14.5 ft. lbs.
Wheels & Tires:
Material:Rubber
Type:X-trac
Capacity:
Clearing Path:30 in.
Controls, Overall:
On/Off Type:Lever
Primary Location:Consoles
Primary Type:Lever
Controls, Safety:
Safety Override:Yes
Safety Lock:Yes
Convenience:
Starter Mitten Grip:Yes
Handles:
Handles Fold For Easy Storage:Yes
Color:
Overall Color:Red
Dimensions:
Intake Height:23 in.
Installation Requirements:
Setup:Fully assembled
Included with Item:
Accessory Type:

Starter mitten grip

Even though I have a relatively small walk and driveway, I wanted a larger machine since last year's snow fall was a record amount and this year is forecasted to be have more than last year.  I was using a 21 year old snowblower with a Tecumseh engine and it started to leak oil on the sidewalk as I used it.  I could have repaired it, but WANTED a larger machine.  The older unit has paid for itself many times over and I have nothing but respect for the Tecumseh engine.  The older unit will go to our vacation home for the few times a year that we visit during the winter. 
I looked at the following brands during my decision making process, Toro, Simplicity, Ariens, Cub Cadet, MTD and Craftsman.  While I think that the Toro machines are very fine indeed they were priced out of my consideration level.  Simplicity and Ariens were on the short list along with this particular Craftsman.  I chose this unit over the Ariens because of the issues that concern me with the Tecumseh engines in the long run as far as service and product availability.  It was an issue for me, but might not be for you.  Everyone should make their own decision on this but be aware that there are issues with Tecumseh engines going bankrupt even though they made a wonderful engine.  The newer B&S snow engines are pretty impressive but time will tell. 
I bought the machine on the Monday after Thanksgiving, called Cyber Monday so I was able to get the sale price plus another 10% off the sale price.  The unit was under $1000 and nothing else came close for engine size and intake opening size at this price point.  The  updated variable speed drive is nice compared to the older 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds.  The power steering is a nice feature.  I like the size of the tires as well. 
I wish that the chute would rotate more than 180 degrees, I was use to my old unit having a wider range of adjustment available.  Speaking of the chute itself.  I like that it is metal.  One of the biggest dissapointments was the placement of the control cables for the chute itself.  On my unit, Model number 917. 881063, one cable actaully made contact with the hot muffler and melted.  Sears sent out a repairman, but on the first call he called in sick; this happens.  The second appointment he showed up without the part.  When I called in the service call, I gave them the part number that needed to be replaced.  When the service man came, he looked at the part and said that he had to order it.  I said that when I placed the call I told them the exact part number.  He said, "yes, I saw that, but I don't have that part on the truck" .   I wondered why he even wasted his time.   He said that he would be back next week.  This was very frustrating, and I am not impressed with the service so far. 
On the unit itself, at this price point, I would buy it again.  I do understand that there are other nice units out there but I haven't found one at this price/performance point.  So for me, I'm happy with my decision.  We are forecasted to have 12 to 13" snow fall tonight, I'm looking forward to it to see how everything performs with a larger snow fall.
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borat


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #17   Dec 23, 2008 2:48 pm
No.  I haven't seen nor looked at the new cab design.   The best I can do is look at what's available on line.   Nobody up here stocks that item.  Looks kind of neat but it doesn't look like it has as much roof.  Hard to tell from the pictures.  I like the one I have.  It's roomy and offers good protection.  Looks like I'm going to need it soon.  We're getting another bid dump here. 

Bring it on!   

hirschallan


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Location: Northern Hills of NY
Joined: Aug 25, 2005
Points: 327

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #18   Dec 23, 2008 5:15 pm
Think I'm returning it. Was at lowes today and measured the one they had  assembled on a blower.It was 41" at the widest part.Much too big fo me! And like you say may not protect enough anyway.

Allan

This message was modified Dec 23, 2008 by hirschallan


Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #19   Dec 24, 2008 12:15 pm
snowmachine wrote:
I notice on some of the Sears reviews they stated that the auger pulley sheared on the auger shaft.

Aside from just being a weak auger case do you think this could also be caused by shear pins that were over-torqued and not offering protection? 

What is maximum torque of shear pins?  I thought I read someone say 11ft lbs.

Thanks!



First thanks Snowmachine for all of the great info on this unit, but I am a little frustrated today.  The 4th post in this thread spoke about the auger pulley shearing.  This happened to me this morning.  I thought that I broke a belt, but when I pulled the unit apart, the pully that looks pressed together split down the middle and the two sides separated.  The soonest that the service department can get here is Jan 8th, over two week lead time.  I bought this unit on Dec 1st  and Sears said that I can return it.  I looked at the Simplicity 1530 this morning but they wanted $1700 for it and it is the closest machine in the Simplicity line to this unit that I spent under $1000 on.  I bought the extended warranty for $200 so I am up to $1200.  Home depot was selling the 1130 DLE for $1199 with a 3 year warranty.  I am wondering if I made the best decision today. 

The local Sears stores don't have the $17 part in stock and to just get the part and install it myself, it will be a week.

Frustration mode has now officially started.

Note:  Snowmachine, order the $17 part NOW.

Rick

snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #20   Dec 24, 2008 12:22 pm
Sears is now selling packages of shear bolts for this model.

$5.99 for (4) bolts & nuts
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188009000P

It says it fits Model 88115.

I cross referenced the parts diagram for this model.

http://www.searspartsdirect.com./partsdirect/getSubComp.pd?modelNumber=917881150&productCategoryId=1507200&brandId=0247&modelName=SNOW-THROWER&diagramPageId=00001&componentDescription=AUGER%20HOUSING/IMPELLER&documentId=P0509009&backToLink=Return%20to%20Sub%20Components%20list

and shear bolt part (#28) number is the same at 192090 = 198636
Poulin Pro part number: 198636 1/4-20 x 1-3/4
Husqvarna 532-198636


This seems like a decent deal compared to buying these individually and should work fine with the related Husqvarna and Poulan Pro models. From what I have gathered all the late model Huskies seem to use the same shear pins as well.

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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #21   Dec 24, 2008 12:33 pm
Clay,

Do you have a pic of how it split? Do think it needs a new bolt and washer as well?

I've looked around at cross referenced parts and this pully seems the same on all of the Husqvarnas as well. I wonder if they will are start doing it or if there was a bad batch with weak welds.

Snowmachine

Clay wrote:
First thanks Snowmachine for all of the great info on this unit, but I am a little frustrated today.  The 4th post in this thread spoke about the auger pulley shearing.  This happened to me this morning.  I thought that I broke a belt, but when I pulled the unit apart, the pully that looks pressed together split down the middle and the two sides separated.  The soonest that the service department can get here is Jan 8th, over two week lead time.  I bought this unit on Dec 1st  and Sears said that I can return it.  I looked at the Simplicity 1530 this morning but they wanted $1700 for it and it is the closest machine in the Simplicity line to this unit that I spent under $1000 on.  I bought the extended warranty for $200 so I am up to $1200.  Home depot was selling the 1130 DLE for $1199 with a 3 year warranty.  I am wondering if I made the best decision today.  </p><p>The local Sears stores don't have the $17 part in stock and to just get the part and install it myself, it will be a week.</p><p>Frustration mode has now officially started.</p><p>Note:  Snowmachine, order the $17 part NOW.</p><p>Rick


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snowmachine


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #22   Dec 24, 2008 12:46 pm
Even the top of the line Husqvarna 1330SB-XLS professional model use this same impeller pulley.

Part Number: 191079

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snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #23   Dec 24, 2008 12:52 pm
Rick,

You might see if local Husky dealer has it in stock.

A dealer locater link is on this page:

http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/node3098.aspx?nid=45713

Snowmachine

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snowmachine


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #24   Dec 24, 2008 2:43 pm
Rick,

Did pulley break in the middle of using it or when you first started out using it for the day? Curious if impeller was frozen with ice from previous work and instead of impeller bolts shearing it took the weak pulley out instead. I'm just amazed they would use such a weak pulley. I wonder if the late run of Craftsman, Poulan Pro and Husqvarna models that all utilize this same pulley are experiencing this issue? Older reviews that go back to last year do not report it breaking like this.

I read in a that forum on wire melt issue that they stated they ran short on parts so some subsitution were made. I wonder if in addition to the cables they substituted a different pulley as well. My blower did not have cable routing issues and appears it was manufactured in July so not sure if mine is going to be a problem as well.

Husqvarna does make a high performance impeller kit. I wonder if this would be more stout than this stock pulley.

http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/node3253.aspx?nid=53246
"High Performance Impeller Kit
Designed for rural use where snow needs to be removed to a maximum distance (up to 40-50 feet). Not designed for residential use. Increases snow throw distance 30%. requires minor belt adjustment. Includes a pulley, belt and instructions."

Snowmachine

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snowmachine


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #25   Dec 24, 2008 2:48 pm
It appears that high performance impeller kit is $32.95 from Jack's small engines.

PN# 532187724

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Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #26   Dec 24, 2008 4:22 pm
Thanks for all of the links and the advice.  While I like the machine and the engine is powerful, I'm more sick of Sears service than anything else.  I have a 30 day return policy and I am taking it.  I located an Ariens 1130 for a little more than this one and I already bought it over the phone.  I'm on the way to pick it up. 

I can take a digital picture of the pully issue and maybe someone can post it here for me since I don't know how.  The Home Depot closes in a hour and a half so I am off to pick up the new Ariens.  Looked at Simplicity but the 1530 is selling for $1700 and the Ariens is $1200.  Maybe Sears will sell this unit as a used unit and someone will get a good deal on what I consider to be a good machine.  I just am not going to wait two weeks before it gets fixed.

Rick

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