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Clay
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Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Original Message Dec 8, 2008 1:15 pm |
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I have made a few comments about this machine in a couple of other posts, but wanted to do a review on a stand alone thread. I want this thread to be a place where I can log some ongoing experiences with this machine since it is really new. I purchased it 12-1-08. First let's look at the specs. I pulled these right off of the Sears website: Product Overview: |
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Stages: | Two stage | Stages: | Two stage | Item Weight: | 293.0 lbs. | General Warranty: | 2 year limited | Chute System: |
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Directional Chute Control: | Yes | Chute Material: | Steel | Chute Rotation: | Yes, single motion | Maximum Chute Rotation: | 180 deg. | General Features: |
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Impeller Diameter: | 12 in. | Auger Style: | Serrated drum | Auger Type: | Curved blade | Number of Rotor Blades: | 3 | Snow Dispersal: | Impeller | Drive System: |
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Propulsion Type: | Wheel engagement | Speeds, Forward: | 6 | Speeds, Reverse: | 2 | Motor-Engine: |
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Amps: | 1.5 | Engine Brand: | Briggs & Stratton® | Series: | 1450 Series | Electric Start: | Yes | Starter Type: | Electric | Torque Ft./Lbs.: | 14.5 ft. lbs. | Wheels & Tires: |
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Material: | Rubber | Type: | X-trac | Capacity: |
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Clearing Path: | 30 in. | Controls, Overall: |
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On/Off Type: | Lever | Primary Location: | Consoles | Primary Type: | Lever | Controls, Safety: |
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Safety Override: | Yes | Safety Lock: | Yes | Convenience: |
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Starter Mitten Grip: | Yes | Handles: |
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Handles Fold For Easy Storage: | Yes | Color: |
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Overall Color: | Red | Dimensions: |
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Intake Height: | 23 in. | Installation Requirements: |
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Setup: | Fully assembled | Included with Item: |
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Accessory Type: | Starter mitten grip |
Even though I have a relatively small walk and driveway, I wanted a larger machine since last year's snow fall was a record amount and this year is forecasted to be have more than last year. I was using a 21 year old snowblower with a Tecumseh engine and it started to leak oil on the sidewalk as I used it. I could have repaired it, but WANTED a larger machine. The older unit has paid for itself many times over and I have nothing but respect for the Tecumseh engine. The older unit will go to our vacation home for the few times a year that we visit during the winter. I looked at the following brands during my decision making process, Toro, Simplicity, Ariens, Cub Cadet, MTD and Craftsman. While I think that the Toro machines are very fine indeed they were priced out of my consideration level. Simplicity and Ariens were on the short list along with this particular Craftsman. I chose this unit over the Ariens because of the issues that concern me with the Tecumseh engines in the long run as far as service and product availability. It was an issue for me, but might not be for you. Everyone should make their own decision on this but be aware that there are issues with Tecumseh engines going bankrupt even though they made a wonderful engine. The newer B&S snow engines are pretty impressive but time will tell. I bought the machine on the Monday after Thanksgiving, called Cyber Monday so I was able to get the sale price plus another 10% off the sale price. The unit was under $1000 and nothing else came close for engine size and intake opening size at this price point. The updated variable speed drive is nice compared to the older 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds. The power steering is a nice feature. I like the size of the tires as well. I wish that the chute would rotate more than 180 degrees, I was use to my old unit having a wider range of adjustment available. Speaking of the chute itself. I like that it is metal. One of the biggest dissapointments was the placement of the control cables for the chute itself. On my unit, Model number 917. 881063, one cable actaully made contact with the hot muffler and melted. Sears sent out a repairman, but on the first call he called in sick; this happens. The second appointment he showed up without the part. When I called in the service call, I gave them the part number that needed to be replaced. When the service man came, he looked at the part and said that he had to order it. I said that when I placed the call I told them the exact part number. He said, "yes, I saw that, but I don't have that part on the truck" . I wondered why he even wasted his time. He said that he would be back next week. This was very frustrating, and I am not impressed with the service so far. On the unit itself, at this price point, I would buy it again. I do understand that there are other nice units out there but I haven't found one at this price/performance point. So for me, I'm happy with my decision. We are forecasted to have 12 to 13" snow fall tonight, I'm looking forward to it to see how everything performs with a larger snow fall.
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Clay
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #1 Dec 8, 2008 1:45 pm |
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I typed this long review and none of it showed up when I actually posted. So I will try again here. The specs on this unit are very nice at this price point. I was able to buy the unit on a Cyber Monday during the holidays at a price of under $1000. This unit is manufactured by Husqvarna and is similar to the Husky 1130SB-LS but is much, much less expensive to buy from Sears than at a Husky dealer. You can see this unit here on the Husqvarna website: http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/node3099.aspx?nid=84620&pid=78456
Even though my current, 5 hp, 21 year old snow blower has a Tecumseh engine that proved to be very durable, I was concerned about the parts availability of Tecumseh engines given the recent bankruptcy. The large B&S engine has more power than I need, but when it comes to power and snow throwers, too much power is never a bad thing.
The power steering is a nice option and the maneuverability of the almost 300 pound machine was quite good. The 30” wide, 23” tall intake chute makes short work of the driveway and side walk. I’m impressed with the ability of the unit to do what it was designed to do and that is throw snow. The variable speed took me some time to get use to, but after a couple of times using it, I have come to appreciate the flexibility of the system vs. an older type of speed control.
The discharge chute is metal and operates smoothly. There are two points of concern here though. The biggest one was the placement of the cables allowed one cable to melt against the hot muffler. While Sears did dispatch a service rep to my home under warranty, when he arrived he didn’t bring the part with him even though I gave them the part number of the damaged cable on my initial call to the service department. The service rep said that he saw where I requested the proper part but didn’t have one on the truck and would have to order one and return in another week. I found this very frustrating and am not impressed with the service from Sears at this point. The second point of concern for me was the amount of adjustability from the chute. It comes with 180 degrees of adjustment. My old unit had a greater adjustment range and I do miss that. So to recap, I love the physical size of the unit and the power plant provided by B&S engine. I would buy this unit again at this price point. I realize that there are other fine units out there, but I wasn’t able to find anything else that came close in performance at this very reasonable price point. I have a forecast of over 12” of snowfall over the next day. This larger snow fall will give me a better idea of what the unit is capable of and I will do a follow up after I tackle it.
Rick
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #2 Dec 8, 2008 2:49 pm |
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Nice machine. I hope it performs well for you. I looked at that Craftsman last year. Compared to the Simplicity 9528, it was too expensive (around $400.00 more at the time), and too complicated for me. When it comes to snow throwers, simple and strong is best. The controls on the Husky/Craftsman look neat but are relatively complicated and likely to fail sooner compared to the Simplicity's all mechanical chute control and cable deflector control. The variable drive system is a novel idea but it's also a complicated piece that would not be easily repaired if it ever needed work. Fortunately, they've been in use on lawn tractors for years and are pretty reliable. Yeah, I'm old school when it comes to machines whose primary function is to perform a relatively simple task albeit in an often hostile environment. That is to move snow from one place to another. Complicated controls and drive systems don't like harsh environments and usually have a tendency to fail right in the middle of a tough job. If you keep a close eye on your adjustments, keep melting snow from forming into ice and freezing up on the machine, you will reduce the possibility of having a problem with the controls. You should have a few years of clear sailing before the electrically controlled stuff starts to cause issues. Let us know how it does over the winter. Edit: I have to correct myself. I thought the unit I looked at had an electrically controlled chute rotator. From looking at the pics, it actually cable actuated. That's a plus. Lube them up good.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #3 Dec 8, 2008 7:29 pm |
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Clay
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #5 Dec 8, 2008 10:40 pm |
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Snowmachine, thanks for the great links. I noticed on the first Youtube video that the machine looks like the one that I have except the 881063 is 30" wide and has a 14.5 torque rated engine and the one in the video is a 27" wide unit with a 13.5 torque rated engine. Similar but different. I also read that one should have some extra shear pins and bought the last package that they had at Sears when I purchased mine. I'm not sure if it is because of the large engine size, but it looks like when a shear pin goes it goes more often for those who run their machines on gravel driveways or pick up a heavier stick than when someone is just running the machine of blacktop or a concrete driveway or sidewalk.. That powerful of an engine and lodge a rock or piece of gravel and something has to give, I'm glad that the $1.50 shear pin breaks instead of something else. I mentioned that this unit is similar to the Husky 1130 but I should have mentioned that the Husky used the Tecumseh engines and this uses the B&S engine, which I feel is a plus right now. I sure would like to have the hand warmers that come with the 1130 standard though. I am not sure if the light on the 881063 is Halogen or a standard light. I am considering putting one of the plastic cabs on this unit when it gets really windy, it might be a very nice option. Anyone use one of these? Would you buy one again or just use a face mask instead and it gets in the way more than it helps? There are many out there but something like this: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188040000P?keyword=snow+thrower+cab&sLevel=0 On my short list it came down to three machines that were at the same price point locally. The Ariens 927LE, Craftsman 14.5 torque rated thrower or the Simplicity 12/26. These machines were not equal in specs but within $20 of each other at the $1000 price point locally. I felt that I got a bigger bang for the buck with this Husky built unit than the other two. Only time will tell if I stay happy with my decision. My goal is to be brutal honest during this report.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #8 Dec 9, 2008 4:15 pm |
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Borat, thanks for the recomendation of the snow cab. I am more convinced that I would like to have one after today's use. We had a nice big snow fall predicted, 12 to 13", but much of it ended up as freezing rain last night instead of snow but it did turn to snow and dropped about 5" of very heavy snow. I wanted to play so I went out and did 4 of my neighbor's driveways and sidewalks and two other people on the block I did their side walk. She powered throw the heavy stuff at the end of the driveway that the plows left without a hitch. Understand it was freezing rain and this was about as heavy of a snowfall as I have seen as far as the weight of the snow. There wasn't a lot of it, but I was impressed never the less busting through the plow leftovers. No I don't plan on doing everyone's driveway and side walk all season long, but I was able to really put the machine through it's paces as well as make some neighbors happy. I remember one little guy three houses down shoveling that stuff. I felt sorry for him and remembered when I was a kid and Mom told me to go "get her done". He had to be about 11 and was really struggling with the driveway. When I walked up and went right through his driveway without stopping he gave me a big smile and that is all that I needed to make it worth it. All of the schools are closed today and many people stayed home from work. The interestate traffic was going about 30 mph, but I was having fun at home. Rick
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #11 Dec 9, 2008 5:29 pm |
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I've done that already on mine.... just waiting to take her out for the first time.<BR><BR><BR> Yo Rick:</p><p>The kid's mom might be a little pissed with you. She probably wanted him out of the house to get him away from the video games and burn off a few calories. Nice gesture nonetheless. </p><p>Did you grease up the wheel axles, put a bit of spray grease on your drive chains, some light oil in your cables and friction surfaces? Also grease your auger shaft? After doing all of that work for the neighbourhood, I'd change the oil and use synthetic at the recommended weight. <BR> <BR> EDIT: I haven't changed oil yet but I will be using some Amsoil synthetic when I do.
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Clay
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #12 Dec 11, 2008 6:58 pm |
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First, is there are way to get an email notification when someone responds to a thread on which I posted? I have that feature enabled on the other chat boards that I belong to, but haven't found that option here. Hopefully the kid's Mom wasn't too upset with me, but the little guy was very happy indeed. On lubing the whole machine up, I haven't done that yet either but agree that a little preventative maintenance will be a good thing. On changing the oil already, I should probably do that soon too. In the vehicles I have run Mobile One for over 10 years in all of the cars as soon as the seals seat with the standard oil. This year Mobile One has some real issues with supplies for some reason and it not available in my area at any store. I put in the full synthetic made by Penz Oil but really haven't researched motor oil in years. I even run the Mobile One in the lawn mowers and the brush cutter that I have. Off topic I know, but the Billy Goat brush cutter is a heck of a machine. So I heard one vote for Amsoil which I have heard good things about. Open to some other input and the why behind the recomendation. Rick
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Clay
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #13 Dec 22, 2008 5:55 pm |
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An update: Sears replaced the cable that was melted against the muffler. It took much longer than I thought and the first time that the service guy came out, he came out without the part even though I told them which part to bring. I have changed the oil with Castrol Syntec. I usually use Mobile One, but it just isn't available for some reason in my area. This is a full synthetic and I expect it will do well. I have pulled the wheels and greased the axles and also added some oil or grease to cables. I did not pull the augers and grease them, but will add some waterproof based grease to the zerts soon. I also added a Classic Acccessories Deluxe snow cab to the machine. Even though it came with a counter weight, I chose to use it without it. I didn't like the way it attached so I was pleased with the unit without the counter weight. I am having one concern with the unit. I could start a new thread but wanted to keep all of this together. If I don't get the response that I am looking for by added this to this thread, I can always start another one. When I first start up the unit and engage the drive mechanism or drive wheels, it doens't move or won't go. I thought that the belt could be slipping but it is too new for that. I also thought that the scrapper bar is too close to the ground so it is causing this problem. But after having difficulty for 10 minutes or so the problem goes away. I'm thinking that there could be a thin layer of ice built up on the belt which is causing it to slip, and then the friction melts that and that is why it works later. Any ideas on this one?
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #14 Dec 22, 2008 8:59 pm |
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Clay, You might want to check out section 6.21 in that service manual. It talks about the adjustment of the drive system control rod. There is also info on how to adjust the clearance between the Rubber Wheel Ring and the Drive Plate Assembly. Although it would seem machine is too new to require that adjustment. Here is excerpt on how to adjust the rod: "* The Drive System Control Rod is on the han- dle at the left side of the operator. Adjustment is required if engagement is sluggish or if there is creep. * Loosen the jam nut, remove hairpin, and dis- connect control rod from control lever. Turn the rod counter-clock-wise to lengthen, clock-wise to shorten. Reconnect the control rod lever. Slack should be removed and the rod should be snug. If not, readjust. Then tighten jam nut. * If this adjustment is not successful, use anti- seize to lubricate the Hex Short Shaft (page 39 key 28) on the Drive Plate Assembly (key 26). See Section 7.45 for disassembly information . * If the rubber ring on the traction disc is missing chunks, has deep cracks, or is worn so the rubber ring clamp plates are 1/16" or less from touching the drive plate in engaged position, the rubber ring must be replaced. " <p>I am having one concern with the unit. I could start a new thread but wanted to keep all of this together. If I don't get the response that I am looking for by added this to this thread, I can always start another one. </p><p>When I first start up the unit and engage the drive mechanism or drive wheels, it doens't move or won't go. I thought that the belt could be slipping but it is too new for that. I also thought that the scrapper bar is too close to the ground so it is causing this problem. But after having difficulty for 10 minutes or so the problem goes away. I'm thinking that there could be a thin layer of ice built up on the belt which is causing it to slip, and then the friction melts that and that is why it works later. Any ideas on this one?
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #15 Dec 22, 2008 9:05 pm |
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Little bit more I missed: * If the rubber ring passes inspection, in the disengaged position adjust the clearance be- tween the Rubber Wheel Ring and the Drive Plate Assembly to .125"-.140". * If there is a complaint that the drive does not disengage properly, check to see that this dimension is at least .125". PROTECTIVE SLEEVE * To adjust clearance, use 9/16" nut connecting the bellcrank to a clutch rod. It is at bottom end of the Drive Control Rod (p 35 key 36). When a new rubber ring is installed, this nut is adjusted so that two threads are showing past the nut. When the ring is worn, it can be adjusted with up to 1/2" of rod past the nut. This increases the force of the drive plate on the rubber ring to stop slipping. The nut should never be turned so that more than 1/2" extends beyond the nut. ( See Section 7.43 ) NOTE: If the Plates supporting the Rubber Wheel Ring come in contact with the Drive Plate Assembly (p 39 Key 26) extreme wear may require that these parts be replaced.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #16 Dec 23, 2008 12:25 am |
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I put a snow cab on my Simplicity. Best unit I could find for under $100.00, it made by Classic and the model is the Classic Deluxe. Very well built and with quick release capability, very convenient. Here's a link to their site as well as a picture of my rig: http://www.classicaccessories.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=112&cid=0 Borat ,
Have you ever seen what i think is the new cab design. I picked one up at Lowes for $125.00 but did'nt install yet .I want to make sure I'm going with it first. It looks diferent then the one you have pictured. I think its wider and not sure it gives the same protection. http://www.classicaccessories.com/doc/CA_Standard_Inst.pdf http://www.classicaccessories.com/video/Snow_Blower_400.htm
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #18 Dec 23, 2008 5:15 pm |
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Think I'm returning it. Was at lowes today and measured the one they had assembled on a blower.It was 41" at the widest part.Much too big fo me! And like you say may not protect enough anyway. Allan
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Clay
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #19 Dec 24, 2008 12:15 pm |
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I notice on some of the Sears reviews they stated that the auger pulley sheared on the auger shaft.
Aside from just being a weak auger case do you think this could also be caused by shear pins that were over-torqued and not offering protection?
What is maximum torque of shear pins? I thought I read someone say 11ft lbs.
Thanks!
First thanks Snowmachine for all of the great info on this unit, but I am a little frustrated today. The 4th post in this thread spoke about the auger pulley shearing. This happened to me this morning. I thought that I broke a belt, but when I pulled the unit apart, the pully that looks pressed together split down the middle and the two sides separated. The soonest that the service department can get here is Jan 8th, over two week lead time. I bought this unit on Dec 1st and Sears said that I can return it. I looked at the Simplicity 1530 this morning but they wanted $1700 for it and it is the closest machine in the Simplicity line to this unit that I spent under $1000 on. I bought the extended warranty for $200 so I am up to $1200. Home depot was selling the 1130 DLE for $1199 with a 3 year warranty. I am wondering if I made the best decision today.
The local Sears stores don't have the $17 part in stock and to just get the part and install it myself, it will be a week. Frustration mode has now officially started. Note: Snowmachine, order the $17 part NOW. Rick
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #20 Dec 24, 2008 12:22 pm |
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Sears is now selling packages of shear bolts for this model. $5.99 for (4) bolts & nuts http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188009000P It says it fits Model 88115. I cross referenced the parts diagram for this model. http://www.searspartsdirect.com./partsdirect/getSubComp.pd?modelNumber=917881150&productCategoryId=1507200&brandId=0247&modelName=SNOW-THROWER&diagramPageId=00001&componentDescription=AUGER%20HOUSING/IMPELLER&documentId=P0509009&backToLink=Return%20to%20Sub%20Components%20list and shear bolt part (#28) number is the same at 192090 = 198636 Poulin Pro part number: 198636 1/4-20 x 1-3/4 Husqvarna 532-198636 This seems like a decent deal compared to buying these individually and should work fine with the related Husqvarna and Poulan Pro models. From what I have gathered all the late model Huskies seem to use the same shear pins as well.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #21 Dec 24, 2008 12:33 pm |
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Clay, Do you have a pic of how it split? Do think it needs a new bolt and washer as well? I've looked around at cross referenced parts and this pully seems the same on all of the Husqvarnas as well. I wonder if they will are start doing it or if there was a bad batch with weak welds. Snowmachine First thanks Snowmachine for all of the great info on this unit, but I am a little frustrated today. The 4th post in this thread spoke about the auger pulley shearing. This happened to me this morning. I thought that I broke a belt, but when I pulled the unit apart, the pully that looks pressed together split down the middle and the two sides separated. The soonest that the service department can get here is Jan 8th, over two week lead time. I bought this unit on Dec 1st and Sears said that I can return it. I looked at the Simplicity 1530 this morning but they wanted $1700 for it and it is the closest machine in the Simplicity line to this unit that I spent under $1000 on. I bought the extended warranty for $200 so I am up to $1200. Home depot was selling the 1130 DLE for $1199 with a 3 year warranty. I am wondering if I made the best decision today. </p><p>The local Sears stores don't have the $17 part in stock and to just get the part and install it myself, it will be a week.</p><p>Frustration mode has now officially started.</p><p>Note: Snowmachine, order the $17 part NOW.</p><p>Rick
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #23 Dec 24, 2008 12:52 pm |
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Rick, You might see if local Husky dealer has it in stock. A dealer locater link is on this page: http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/node3098.aspx?nid=45713 Snowmachine
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #24 Dec 24, 2008 2:43 pm |
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Rick, Did pulley break in the middle of using it or when you first started out using it for the day? Curious if impeller was frozen with ice from previous work and instead of impeller bolts shearing it took the weak pulley out instead. I'm just amazed they would use such a weak pulley. I wonder if the late run of Craftsman, Poulan Pro and Husqvarna models that all utilize this same pulley are experiencing this issue? Older reviews that go back to last year do not report it breaking like this. I read in a that forum on wire melt issue that they stated they ran short on parts so some subsitution were made. I wonder if in addition to the cables they substituted a different pulley as well. My blower did not have cable routing issues and appears it was manufactured in July so not sure if mine is going to be a problem as well. Husqvarna does make a high performance impeller kit. I wonder if this would be more stout than this stock pulley. http://www.usa.husqvarna.com/node3253.aspx?nid=53246 "High Performance Impeller Kit Designed for rural use where snow needs to be removed to a maximum distance (up to 40-50 feet). Not designed for residential use. Increases snow throw distance 30%. requires minor belt adjustment. Includes a pulley, belt and instructions." Snowmachine
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #27 Dec 25, 2008 6:50 am |
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Check the setup on the Ariens before using it. Especially a Home Depot assembled unit. If it comes with the Ariens style Joy stick chute control make sure to cable tie the cable away from the exhaust. If you don't you will have the same experience as you had with Sears. Most of the Ariens units I have seen at home depot come shipped with oil already installed.Those are on Tecumseh powered models. Check it anyway before using the machine. In fact I would go through the assembly instructions on the unit before using it the first time.If you can take it home in the box and assemble it yourself so much the better. I've done two that way-believe me it is not rocket science. By the way I think you served yourself well by getting rid of the Sears for the Ariens. Sears is no better than Home Depot when it comes to set up and assembly. A little TLC during setup will go a long way in terms of trouble free service from any brand machine. Good Luck, Marc
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #28 Dec 25, 2008 1:25 pm |
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If your Ariens manual calls for a "run-in", I would do it and check the belt adjustments as outlined in the manual. The new belts limber up and may slip under your first heavy use.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #30 Dec 26, 2008 10:21 pm |
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I got into about 2-3 feet of snow today. Craftsman did really well. Only a little bit of bogging when I pushed the speed faster than I should have. I imagine it was throwing in the 30-35 foot range. I will take some video and post on Youtube at some point. We might get another 2-3 feet here in eastern Cascades by Sunday afternoon. I did have to adjust the solid traction control rod. It had too much slack and after adjusting delayed drive engagement went away. Rick had lots of trouble with his but mine is so far holding up. Time will tell. I will only be using this a 3 or 4 times a month in winter at my vacation cabin so service life may be beyond the typical Craftsman model.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #33 Dec 27, 2008 9:56 pm |
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #35 Dec 28, 2008 9:08 am |
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We get a lot of snow here in winter. This was 18 inches on top of the previous 24 inches that had fallen in previous days. One of the best snowmobiling spots in Washington state (Cle Elum/Roslyn/Ronald). I always stay on top of maintenance and go far beyond the minimum but as Rick's experience showed he had a pulley that sheared. I have been checking belts and pulleys after each use and all seems well still. I do plan to pick up a spare pulley since if anything that single $17.00 pulley seems to be the weak link on these blowers. We typically have far more powder than wet slush here and no EOD berms so maybe that in itself will help with the longevity of this unit. In hindsight if I had researched more thoroughly I probably would've picked up a Simplicity or Ariens but I am far beyond the return period and will make good use of what I have. With any luck it won't disappoint but if it does at least I will have an idea of what has failed. That's a sh!tload snow you have there! Looks like the Craftsman handled it well. If that's what you'll be seeing on a regular basis, better stay on top of maintenance. That machine will be getting a serious work out.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #37 Dec 28, 2008 10:06 am |
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Under reviews on Sears website for the blower there was one other person who spoke of pulley shearing. Really only two incidents that I am aware of and that includes Rick's experience. It sounds like other failures were just common shear bolts as expected. I am keeping the following spares on hand: -auger belt -drive belt -12 shear bolts & nuts -4 impeller shear bolts & nuts -One impeller pulley (on order) -Extra Lube, grease and synthetic oil Great idea on skids. This blower is located at my cabin. You have to ride snowmobiles in with a cargo sled. I actually have skids set at lowest position. I am trying to keep 2-3 inch base of snow in areas so sleds have easier time crossing over entrance to property. We often get so much snow it is even challenging to not get stuck with the sleds. Have you heard of other pulleys failing? If not, it was probably just a one time deal. The pulley was more than likely defective from the get go. </p><p>I'd keep a spare auger belt handy. That's for sure. Drive belts seem to last for ever but auger belts don't. You might want a spare set of skids too. Working on a big paved driveway, that was the big wear item on my machines. If you know a welder, I'd look at welding a piece of 1/4" x 1" x 6" flat bar on the bottom of the skid a little less than flush with inside of the mounting side. Curve the ends up a bit. If you're working on gravel, you might want to make the skid a little bigger. It will last much longer and give you a bigger contact patch to slide over stones etc. .
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #40 Dec 29, 2008 6:10 pm |
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I've only got a few hours on her now so decided to swap out the oil today. Manual said 5 hours but that seemed like too long. I am using Amsoil 5W-30. I notice manual says 18 ounces but mine took 22 ounces.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #42 Dec 29, 2008 6:43 pm |
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I put in 18 ounces and waited a few minutes. It still wasn't at top of dipstick so I slowly added and checked on one minute intervals until it was at top of dipstick. I will double check again before next use. Changing the oil is sure easy on this B&S. Thanks!
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Attn SNOWMACHINE - Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #45 Dec 30, 2008 4:03 pm |
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Snowmachine, I'd like to thank you for the inspiration. I recently tore down my perfectly good garage in order to facilitate the strategic parking of more vehicles in my yard. It's a long story but I do not regret the demolition, aside from the fact that I have nowhere to store or work on anything. Last week I bought a 2008 Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower (917.881063) as a "scratch & dent" model from Sears. I brought it home, where it sat, unceremoniously parked in the backyard under the shoddy coverage of a blue tarp. The yard has changed from frozen ground to mud and back several times already and the snow blower just sank further in every time. It has been with much despair (and much ribbing from my old man, with his climate controlled attached garage and home to his newly acquired Ariens) that I've been reading these posts. It was quickly apparent that there are various maintenance items and general tinkering that can and should occur with this machine. Since I had nowhere covered, heated, or lit, I was at a serious disadvantage in terms of working on machinery in an area where it's always god awful cold and pitch dark by 5pm every day. Last night just before bed I was checking the pictures you posted on Picasa of your "cable looming" job. Not only were the pictures very detailed and well displayed, I couldn't help but notice the blue tarp on which your machine was parked and the odd patterned wall paper in the back ground - not typically what one would find in a garage. Those people blessed with proper storage for mechanized gadgets would probably overlook these small details but for me it instantly screamed out "HE'S GOT IT IN THE HOUSE!!!. "BRILLIANT!!!" So at 11:30pm I hastily transplanted the entire contents of my mudroom into the basement with a few jumbled armloads. I laid out a blue tarp, ramped my 293lb machine up the back steps, across the deck, and through the door into the mudroom. I now have lighted, heated, electrically equipped storage and working space! It was really the first time since the Sears showroom that I've even gotten a good look at the damn thing. I'll no doubt be spending the coming days pouring over it, manual in hand, cold beer close by, til all hours of the night, just because I can. I'm thrilled. My wife, on the other hand, may not be quite so enthusiastic but that's besides the point. Thanks again for the inspiration! The machine, btw, was purchased at a fairly substantial discount at Sears as "Repaired - Defect Unknown". It had never been used and I can't find any signs of it being worked on or any damage. Odd. I did make a few passes with it the first night home and everything seems to be in good working order. The factory warranty is the same as a new one and for the first time ever I purchased the 5 year service plan. I'll keep my fingers crossed. I'm looking forward to the next good storm so I can really put it to a worthy test before wheeling it back inside....
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Re: Attn SNOWMACHINE - Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #47 Dec 30, 2008 9:01 pm |
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Glad to hear you got some inspiration from it! :-) Actually I have it in a small 120 square foot heated shed. It has served as a sleeping area when we have extra guests up at the cabin but right now I store tools and the blower in it. Your post gave me a great chuckle this evening. I had thought of storing the blower outside for a while under a deck but getting it out of the elements after use certainly has so many advantages. Here's a beer to you! :-) I don't normally pick up the extended warranties either but I figured this one might be able to take advantage of it over a 5 year period. I purchased mine back in September when they had it at $999.00 but you probably got an even greater discount as scratch and dent. Snowmachine, I'd like to thank you for the inspiration. <BR> <BR> I recently tore down my perfectly good garage in order to facilitate the strategic parking of more vehicles in my yard. It's a long story but I do not regret the demolition, aside from the fact that I have nowhere to store or work on anything. <BR> <BR> Last week I bought a 2008 Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower (917.881063) as a "scratch & dent" model from Sears. I brought it home, where it sat, unceremoniously parked in the backyard under the shoddy coverage of a blue tarp. The yard has changed from frozen ground to mud and back several times already and the snow blower just sank further in every time. It has been with much despair (and much ribbing from my old man, with his climate controlled attached garage and home to his newly acquired Ariens) that I've been reading these posts. It was quickly apparent that there are various maintenance items and general tinkering that can and should occur with this machine. Since I had nowhere covered, heated, or lit, I was at a serious disadvantage in terms of working on machinery in an area where it's always god awful cold and pitch dark by 5pm every day.<BR> <BR> Last night just before bed I was checking the pictures you posted on Picasa of your "cable looming" job. Not only were the pictures very detailed and well displayed, I couldn't help but notice the blue tarp on which your machine was parked and the odd patterned wall paper in the back ground - not typically what one would find in a garage. Those people blessed with proper storage for mechanized gadgets would probably overlook these small details but for me it instantly screamed out "HE'S GOT IT IN THE HOUSE!!!. "BRILLIANT!!!"<BR> <BR> So at 11:30pm I hastily transplanted the entire contents of my mudroom into the basement with a few jumbled armloads. I laid out a blue tarp, ramped my 293lb machine up the back steps, across the deck, and through the door into the mudroom. I now have lighted, heated, electrically equipped storage and working space! It was really the first time since the Sears showroom that I've even gotten a good look at the damn thing. I'll no doubt be spending the coming days pouring over it, manual in hand, cold beer close by, til all hours of the night, just because I can. I'm thrilled. My wife, on the other hand, may not be quite so enthusiastic but that's besides the point.<BR> <BR> Thanks again for the inspiration! <BR> <BR> The machine, btw, was purchased at a fairly substantial discount at Sears as "Repaired - Defect Unknown". It had never been used and I can't find any signs of it being worked on or any damage. Odd. I did make a few passes with it the first night home and everything seems to be in good working order. The factory warranty is the same as a new one and for the first time ever I purchased the 5 year service plan. I'll keep my fingers crossed.<BR> <BR> I'm looking forward to the next good storm so I can really put it to a worthy test before wheeling it back inside....
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #48 Dec 30, 2008 9:09 pm |
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In the past I have wire loomed exposed wiring and cabling on my sleds and ATV's. I figured it couldn't hurt here. I think I did the whole thing with about 20 feet of wire loom. I can't remember exactly. I bought it in packages of 5 feet. I'd rather have wear against some cheap wire loom than a $70 cable assembly. I have some abrasion from the chuke crank against the drive engagement cable that's been bothering me. Thanks for the idea and the detailed pictures.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #49 Dec 30, 2008 9:14 pm |
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Here are some additional links for owner's of this blower: [Shear bolt kit from Sears] http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188009000P [B & S Operators Manual] http://www.briggsandstratton.com/pdf/owners_manual/100%5C277104TRI_B-Domestic.pdf [B & S Illustrated parts list] http://www.briggsandstratton.com/pdf/illustrated_parts_list/100%5CMS4004.pdf [Sears owners manual in PDF form] http://www.managemyhome.com/mmh/lis_pdf/OWNM/L0803093.pdf
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Re: Attn SNOWMACHINE - Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #51 Dec 30, 2008 10:26 pm |
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I don't normally pick up the extended warranties either but I figured this one might be able to take advantage of it over a 5 year period. I purchased mine back in September when they had it at $999.00 but you probably got an even greater discount as scratch and dent. I got mine for $879 after sale price and 20% scratch and dent discount. I still haven't found the and scratches and dents but that's probably because they're on the cylinder walls or something equally as horrific. I'll be sure to repost if and when the thing grenades. With any luck I'll blow the motor and burn the thing to the ground 4 years and 11 months into the 5 year service warranty....
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #52 Dec 30, 2008 10:43 pm |
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I will note that on the first night of test runs, I somehow manged to suck in a frozen leather work glove that must have been buried in the snow. It got jammed in the impeller and the entire machine ground to complete halt without breaking the supposed shear bolt! We're talking terrible sounds, drastically dimming headlight, the works. Isn't that the point of shear pins? To prevent destructive seizure of expensive gearage along with the terrible smell of melting drive belts and such? At the very least I immediately felt better about the purchase of that service plan of which up until that point I was still questioning the value of. I think this may be a lengthy thread by the time spring finally rolls around.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #53 Dec 30, 2008 10:56 pm |
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I wonder if shear bolts are over torqued? I've heard some state that over-torqued shear bolts are equally ineffective and they really shouldn't be tightened to more than 11 foot lbs. I'm not certain so someone in the know may be able to clarify. You might want to take a quick peak at your belts. Only a couple screws to remove the cover. I will note that on the first night of test runs, I somehow manged to suck in a frozen leather work glove that must have been buried in the snow. It got jammed in the impeller and the entire machine ground to complete halt <span style="font-style: italic;">without breaking the supposed shear bolt!</span> We're talking terrible sounds, drastically dimming headlight, the works. Isn't that the point of shear pins? To prevent destructive seizure of expensive gearage along with the terrible smell of melting drive belts and such? At the very least I immediately felt better about the purchase of that service plan of which up until that point I was still questioning the value of. <BR><BR>I think this may be a lengthy thread by the time spring finally rolls around.
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #56 Dec 31, 2008 11:29 am |
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Service manual can be downloaded from here: http://www.mymowerparts.com/pdf/Husqvarna_Service_Repair_Manuals/W0302001.pdf It says Electrolux but it is still relevant. Electrolux used to be the parent company of Husqvarna IIRC. Service manual stuff starts at about page 23.
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