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Clay


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Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Original Message   Dec 8, 2008 1:15 pm
I have made a few comments about this machine in a couple of other posts, but wanted to do a review on a stand alone thread. 

I want this thread to be a place where I can log some ongoing experiences with this machine since it is really new.  I purchased it 12-1-08.  First let's look at the specs.  I pulled these right off of the Sears website:

Product Overview:
Stages:Two stage
Stages:Two stage
Item Weight:293.0 lbs.
General Warranty:2 year limited
Chute System:
Directional Chute Control:Yes
Chute Material:Steel
Chute Rotation:Yes, single motion
Maximum Chute Rotation:180 deg.
General Features:
Impeller Diameter:12 in.
Auger Style:Serrated drum
Auger Type:Curved blade
Number of Rotor Blades:3
Snow Dispersal:Impeller
Drive System:
Propulsion Type:Wheel engagement
Speeds, Forward:6
Speeds, Reverse:2
Motor-Engine:
Amps:1.5
Engine Brand:Briggs & Stratton®
Series:1450 Series
Electric Start:Yes
Starter Type:Electric
Torque Ft./Lbs.:14.5 ft. lbs.
Wheels & Tires:
Material:Rubber
Type:X-trac
Capacity:
Clearing Path:30 in.
Controls, Overall:
On/Off Type:Lever
Primary Location:Consoles
Primary Type:Lever
Controls, Safety:
Safety Override:Yes
Safety Lock:Yes
Convenience:
Starter Mitten Grip:Yes
Handles:
Handles Fold For Easy Storage:Yes
Color:
Overall Color:Red
Dimensions:
Intake Height:23 in.
Installation Requirements:
Setup:Fully assembled
Included with Item:
Accessory Type:

Starter mitten grip

Even though I have a relatively small walk and driveway, I wanted a larger machine since last year's snow fall was a record amount and this year is forecasted to be have more than last year.  I was using a 21 year old snowblower with a Tecumseh engine and it started to leak oil on the sidewalk as I used it.  I could have repaired it, but WANTED a larger machine.  The older unit has paid for itself many times over and I have nothing but respect for the Tecumseh engine.  The older unit will go to our vacation home for the few times a year that we visit during the winter. 
I looked at the following brands during my decision making process, Toro, Simplicity, Ariens, Cub Cadet, MTD and Craftsman.  While I think that the Toro machines are very fine indeed they were priced out of my consideration level.  Simplicity and Ariens were on the short list along with this particular Craftsman.  I chose this unit over the Ariens because of the issues that concern me with the Tecumseh engines in the long run as far as service and product availability.  It was an issue for me, but might not be for you.  Everyone should make their own decision on this but be aware that there are issues with Tecumseh engines going bankrupt even though they made a wonderful engine.  The newer B&S snow engines are pretty impressive but time will tell. 
I bought the machine on the Monday after Thanksgiving, called Cyber Monday so I was able to get the sale price plus another 10% off the sale price.  The unit was under $1000 and nothing else came close for engine size and intake opening size at this price point.  The  updated variable speed drive is nice compared to the older 6 forward and 2 reverse speeds.  The power steering is a nice feature.  I like the size of the tires as well. 
I wish that the chute would rotate more than 180 degrees, I was use to my old unit having a wider range of adjustment available.  Speaking of the chute itself.  I like that it is metal.  One of the biggest dissapointments was the placement of the control cables for the chute itself.  On my unit, Model number 917. 881063, one cable actaully made contact with the hot muffler and melted.  Sears sent out a repairman, but on the first call he called in sick; this happens.  The second appointment he showed up without the part.  When I called in the service call, I gave them the part number that needed to be replaced.  When the service man came, he looked at the part and said that he had to order it.  I said that when I placed the call I told them the exact part number.  He said, "yes, I saw that, but I don't have that part on the truck" .   I wondered why he even wasted his time.   He said that he would be back next week.  This was very frustrating, and I am not impressed with the service so far. 
On the unit itself, at this price point, I would buy it again.  I do understand that there are other nice units out there but I haven't found one at this price/performance point.  So for me, I'm happy with my decision.  We are forecasted to have 12 to 13" snow fall tonight, I'm looking forward to it to see how everything performs with a larger snow fall.
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borat


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #2   Dec 8, 2008 2:49 pm
Nice machine.   I hope it performs well for you. 

 I looked at that Craftsman last year.  Compared to the Simplicity 9528, it was too expensive (around $400.00 more at the time), and too complicated for me. 

When it comes to snow throwers, simple and strong is best.   The controls on the Husky/Craftsman look neat but are relatively complicated and likely  to fail sooner compared to the Simplicity's all mechanical chute control and cable deflector control.  The variable drive system is a novel idea but it's also a complicated piece that would not be easily repaired if it ever needed work.  Fortunately, they've been in use on lawn tractors for years and are pretty reliable.  Yeah,  I'm old school when it comes to machines whose primary function is to perform a relatively simple task albeit in an often hostile environment.   That is to move snow from one place to another.   Complicated controls and drive systems don't like harsh environments and usually have a tendency to fail right in the middle of a tough job.   If you keep a close eye on your adjustments, keep melting snow from forming into ice and freezing up on the machine, you will reduce the possibility of having a problem with the controls.  You should have a few years of clear sailing before the electrically controlled stuff starts to cause issues.   Let us know how it does over the winter. 

Edit:  I have to correct myself.  I thought the unit I looked at had an electrically controlled chute rotator.  From looking at the pics, it actually cable actuated.  That's a plus.  Lube them up good. 

This message was modified Dec 8, 2008 by borat
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #3   Dec 8, 2008 7:29 pm
snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #4   Dec 8, 2008 8:26 pm
I notice on some of the Sears reviews they stated that the auger pulley sheared on the auger shaft.

Aside from just being a weak auger case do you think this could also be caused by shear pins that were over-torqued and not offering protection? 

What is maximum torque of shear pins?  I thought I read someone say 11ft lbs.

Thanks!



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Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #5   Dec 8, 2008 10:40 pm
Snowmachine, thanks for the great links.  I noticed on the first Youtube video that the machine looks like the one that I have except the 881063 is 30" wide and has a 14.5 torque rated engine and the one in the video is a 27" wide unit with a 13.5 torque rated engine.  Similar but different. 

I also read that one should have some extra shear pins and bought the last package that they had at Sears when I purchased mine.  I'm not sure if it is because of the large engine size, but it looks like when a shear pin goes it goes more often for those who run their machines on gravel driveways or pick up a heavier stick than when someone is just running the machine of blacktop or a concrete driveway or sidewalk..  That powerful of an engine and lodge a rock or piece of gravel and something has to give, I'm glad that the $1.50 shear pin breaks instead of something else.   

I mentioned that this unit is similar to the Husky 1130 but I should have mentioned that the Husky used the Tecumseh engines and this uses the B&S engine, which I feel is a plus right now.  I sure would like to have the hand warmers that come with the 1130 standard though.  I am not sure if the light on the 881063 is Halogen or a standard light. 

I am considering putting one of the plastic cabs on this unit when it gets really windy, it might be a very nice option.  Anyone use one of these?  Would you buy one again or just use a face mask instead and it gets in the way more than it helps?  There are many out there but something like this:  http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188040000P?keyword=snow+thrower+cab&sLevel=0

On my short list it came down to three machines that were at the same price point locally.  The Ariens 927LE, Craftsman 14.5 torque rated thrower or the Simplicity 12/26.  These machines were not equal in specs but within $20 of each other at the $1000 price point locally.  I felt that I got a bigger bang for the buck with this Husky built unit  than the other two.  Only time will tell if I stay happy with my decision.  My goal is to be brutal honest during this report. 

snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #6   Dec 8, 2008 11:07 pm
I was thinking about putting aftermarket hand warmers on but electrical output is only 1.5 AMPS.  I guess most aftermarket grips take 3 AMPS by themselves.  Some heavy duty mittens will suffice.   I think the Sno-Max version of engine has an upgraded alternator to accommodate heated grips on some models. 

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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #7   Dec 9, 2008 9:08 am
I put a snow cab on my Simplicity.  Best unit I could find for under $100.00, it made by Classic and the model is the Classic Deluxe.  Very well built and with quick release capability, very convenient.   Here's a link to their site as well as a picture of my rig:

http://www.classicaccessories.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=112&cid=0

 

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Clay


Location: Wis
Joined: Dec 3, 2008
Points: 111

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #8   Dec 9, 2008 4:15 pm
Borat, thanks for the recomendation of the snow cab.  I am more convinced that I would like to have one after today's use.

We had a nice big snow fall predicted, 12 to 13", but much of it ended up as freezing rain last night instead of snow but it did turn to snow and dropped about 5" of very heavy snow.  I wanted to play so I went out and did 4 of my neighbor's driveways and sidewalks and two other people on the block I did their side walk.  She powered throw the heavy stuff at the end of the driveway that the plows left without a hitch.  Understand it was freezing rain and this was about as heavy of a snowfall as I have seen as far as the weight of the snow.  There wasn't a lot of it, but I was impressed never the less busting through the plow leftovers.  No I don't plan on doing everyone's driveway and side walk all season long, but I was able to really put the machine through it's paces as well as make some neighbors happy.  I remember one little guy three houses down shoveling that stuff.  I felt sorry for him and remembered when I was a kid and Mom told me to go "get her done".  He had to be about 11 and was really struggling with the driveway.  When I walked up and went right through his driveway without stopping he gave me a big smile and that is all that I needed to make it worth it. 

All of the schools are closed today and many people stayed home from work.  The interestate traffic was going about 30 mph, but I was having fun at home. 

Rick

borat


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #9   Dec 9, 2008 4:47 pm
Yo Rick:

The kid's mom might be a little pissed with you.  She probably wanted him out of the house to get him away from the video games and burn off a few calories.   Nice gesture nonetheless. 

Did you grease up the wheel axles, put a bit of spray grease on your drive chains, some light oil in your cables and friction surfaces?  Also grease your auger shaft?  After doing all of that work for the neighbourhood, I'd change the oil and use synthetic at the recommended weight.  

snowmachine


Location: Washington State
Joined: Nov 12, 2008
Points: 268

Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #10   Dec 9, 2008 5:28 pm
Good to hear on performance. We are just now starting to get some snowfall in mountains....hopefully next week or so I will get to try mine out.


Clay wrote:
Borat, thanks for the recomendation of the snow cab.  I am more convinced that I would like to have one after today's use.</p><p>We had a nice big snow fall predicted, 12 to 13&quot;, but much of it ended up as freezing rain last night instead of snow but it did turn to snow and dropped about 5&quot; of very heavy snow.  I wanted to play so I went out and did 4 of my neighbor's driveways and sidewalks and two other people on the block I did their side walk.  She powered throw the heavy stuff at the end of the driveway that the plows left without a hitch.  Understand it was freezing rain and this was about as heavy of a snowfall as I have seen as far as the weight of the snow.  There wasn't a lot of it, but I was impressed never the less busting through the plow leftovers.  No I don't plan on doing everyone's driveway and side walk all season long, but I was able to really put the machine through it's paces as well as make some neighbors happy.  I remember one little guy three houses down shoveling that stuff.  I felt sorry for him and remembered when I was a kid and Mom told me to go &quot;get her done&quot;.  He had to be about 11 and was really struggling with the driveway.  When I walked up and went right through his driveway without stopping he gave me a big smile and that is all that I needed to make it worth it.  </p><p>All of the schools are closed today and many people stayed home from work.  The interestate traffic was going about 30 mph, but I was having fun at home.  </p><p>Rick


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snowmachine


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Re: Craftsman 14.5 Torque Rating Snow Thrower, Model 917.881063
Reply #11   Dec 9, 2008 5:29 pm
I've done that already on mine.... just waiting to take her out for the first time.<BR><BR><BR> borat wrote:
Yo Rick:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The kid's mom might be a little pissed with you.  She probably wanted him out of the house to get him away from the video games and burn off a few calories.   Nice gesture nonetheless.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did you grease up the wheel axles, put a bit of spray grease on your drive chains, some light oil in your cables and friction surfaces?  Also grease your auger shaft?  After doing all of that work for the neighbourhood, I'd change the oil and use synthetic at the recommended weight.  <BR>
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EDIT: I haven't changed oil yet but I will be using some Amsoil synthetic when I do.
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