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mikiewest


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snow throwing distance??need help...
Original Message   Oct 3, 2008 10:56 pm
Which snowthrower has the best snow throwing distance be it wet,2 inches or 5 inches??need to toss the snow long distances....
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Jonathan


I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house. -Zsa Zsa

Location: Near Albany NY
Joined: Sep 12, 2004
Points: 320

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #1   Oct 3, 2008 11:19 pm
I'd suggest you check the web sites of the various manufacturers. Ariens and Toro list the distances for theirs. Don't know about the others.

2004 Ariens 11528LE, Troybilt Horse "Big Red" Tiller (original), Troybilt Tuffy Tiller (original), Sears LT1000 mower, Lawn Boy 7073 21" mower, Stihl FS55 RC trimmer, Poulan Countervibe 3400 chainsaw
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #2   Oct 5, 2008 12:38 am
The Ariens machines are tops in throwing distance. The dual belt 14" impeller drive and high trajectory chute are tough to beat.
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #3   Oct 12, 2008 8:37 pm
I have a 9528 Simplicity which hurls snow much further than my other machines ever did.  Not only can it throw it far, it will efficiently and quickly move an enormous amount of it as well.  Here's a couple pics  of it in action with average snow. 

 

snowblowerguy


Joined: Oct 31, 2008
Points: 16

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #4   Oct 31, 2008 10:15 pm
the answer to all your snowblower questions is ARIENS
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #5   Nov 1, 2008 12:39 pm

    In general, distance thrown for a given horse power, size of intake shoot width, and height they all toss about the same in the same conditions.  They mostly have the same auger and impeller speeds.  The only standout for a given horsepower and width I’ve experienced is Honda.  They are fantastic machines and pricey. 

 

   If you want to buck snow then go for a limited intake width and more horsepower.  Ariens makes an 11.5 horsepower with a 24 inch intake width with an aluminum gearcase so not very expensive. 
Jonathan


I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house. -Zsa Zsa

Location: Near Albany NY
Joined: Sep 12, 2004
Points: 320

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #6   Nov 1, 2008 6:31 pm
I don't have any photos, but my 11.5 HP Ariens could easily compete with Borat's Simplicity. I'd go with an Ariens, Simplicity or Toro; Honda if you can afford it.

2004 Ariens 11528LE, Troybilt Horse "Big Red" Tiller (original), Troybilt Tuffy Tiller (original), Sears LT1000 mower, Lawn Boy 7073 21" mower, Stihl FS55 RC trimmer, Poulan Countervibe 3400 chainsaw
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #7   Nov 2, 2008 9:11 am
Jonathan wrote:
I don't have any photos, but my 11.5 HP Ariens could easily compete with Borat's Simplicity. I'd go with an Ariens, Simplicity or Toro; Honda if you can afford it.


An 11.5 hp Ariens vs. a 9.5 hp (rated) Simplicity should be significantly better.  After all, that's a 21% horse power advantage. 
DSIMONE1


Joined: Nov 2, 2008
Points: 3

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #8   Nov 2, 2008 10:24 am
I can only say from my own experience of owning several different machines that the John Deere TRS32 I now have will blow the house away if you get too close! This machine has no mercy when it comes to snowblowing. It handles the wet snow with ease just as well as the dry powdery snow that the fellow here in the pictures is showing. Pretty much any snowblower will blow the powdery stuff  over the roof tops. It's that WET snow that separates the real machines from the want-a bees!
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #9   Nov 2, 2008 1:35 pm
DSIMONE1 wrote:
I can only say from my own experience of owning several different machines that the John Deere TRS32 I now have will blow the house away if you get too close! This machine has no mercy when it comes to snowblowing. It handles the wet snow with ease just as well as the dry powdery snow that the fellow here in the pictures is showing. Pretty much any snowblower will blow the powdery stuff  over the roof tops. It's that WET snow that separates the real machines from the want-a bees!


You might be surprised to learn that your "JD"  is a Simplicty or possibly an Ariens with a different paint job. 
coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
Points: 142

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #10   Nov 11, 2008 5:21 pm
borat wrote:
I have a 9528 Simplicity which hurls snow much further than my other machines ever did.  Not only can it throw it far, it will efficiently and quickly move an enormous amount of it as well.  Here's a couple pics  of it in action with average snow. 

 

Borat:  Love your pictures.  Fantastic.

  El Toro! 1028 LXE - Tecumseh 358cc 10hp   Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
Points: 142

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #11   Nov 11, 2008 5:25 pm
borat wrote:
You might be surprised to learn that your "JD"  is a Simplicty or possibly an Ariens with a different paint job. 

DSIMONE1 and Borat:  I was told by a guy who works on snow blowers and other equipment that John Deere snow blowers around the year 2000 (plus or minus) were built by Ariens.  They have been built by other companies, also, but some of them are indeed Ariens.  Don't know about the TRS32, though. 

  El Toro! 1028 LXE - Tecumseh 358cc 10hp   Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
Points: 142

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #12   Nov 11, 2008 5:31 pm
Snowmann wrote:
The Ariens machines are tops in throwing distance. The dual belt 14" impeller drive and high trajectory chute are tough to beat.

Snowmann:  How long has Ariens been using the dual belts for the auger drive?  Any particular models within recent years, or the whole line?  Thanks.
This message was modified Nov 11, 2008 by coasteray


  El Toro! 1028 LXE - Tecumseh 358cc 10hp   Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #13   Nov 11, 2008 5:31 pm
Thanks for the compliment on the pics.  They're actually screen shots from a video I took with a Fuji S800 digital camera.  It's not a video camera but the video quality sure impresses me. 
steelers


Joined: Oct 12, 2008
Points: 9

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #14   Nov 11, 2008 7:49 pm
trouts2 wrote:
   If you want to buck snow then go for a limited intake width and more horsepower.  Ariens makes an 11.5 horsepower with a 24 inch intake width with an aluminum gearcase so not very expensive. 

I don't see a 11.5 horse with a 24 inch intake width on Ariens site. Anyone know the model number on this?

Thanks
Adam
steelers


Joined: Oct 12, 2008
Points: 9

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #15   Nov 11, 2008 7:58 pm
borat, love the pics too.

How does the 9528 throw against the wind? I'll have to fight the wind about every time out to avoid the neighbor's driveway. I'm looking at the Simplicity 1428 (Toro and Ariens too)

I think the 9528 you have is now the 1428 to account for the Briggs torque rating.

Thanks
Adam
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #16   Nov 11, 2008 8:46 pm
It will throw more  snow into the wind than your face can handle.  Doesn't really matter what machine you're using.  Snow is snow and wind is wind.  When I have to move snow into the wind, I lower the deflector as low as possible but still able put the snow where I want it.   Light snow in wind is particularly bad.  Wet snow is nowhere near as difficult to work with in the wind but it brings it's own limitations to the job.   
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #17   Nov 11, 2008 10:03 pm
coasteray wrote:
Snowmann:  How long has Ariens been using the dual belts for the auger drive?  Any particular models within recent years, or the whole line?  Thanks.

All 921,XXX and 926,XXX models built in the last 2 seasons.
coasteray


El Toro! 1028 LXE
Tecumseh 358cc
10hp


Location: NE Washington State
Joined: Mar 3, 2008
Points: 142

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #18   Nov 12, 2008 1:04 am
steelers wrote:
I don't see a 11.5 horse with a 24 inch intake width on Ariens site. Anyone know the model number on this?

Thanks
Adam

Steelers, I just came across what I think is your model in question, except that it is an 11HP Ariens 1124DLE, from 2003 or 2004, not 11.5HP.  At any rate, check this site:

http://www.kensserviceandsales.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?veh=12895#detail

The link works; I just tried it.  They also have another model, the 8524DLE (8.5HP, 24"), found by clicking on the little menu box to the right of the picture of the 1124DLE.   They both have a differential with a lockout knob on the left wheel.

I don't have any idea if Ken's Sales and Service even has these blowers, or why they are even on their web site after 4 or 5 years.  At least you can get the information.  Copy the pictures and text to your computer for future reference.   Let us know what happens.

  El Toro! 1028 LXE - Tecumseh 358cc 10hp   Let it snow! Let it snow! Let it snow!
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #19   Nov 12, 2008 1:59 pm
Not sure why you would buy new a product from half a decade ago. There have been many advancements since then. The more recent units with a high power density relative to width are:

Ariens 926010 ST11526DLE Briggs powered (11.5hp 26" wide)

Ariens 926012 ST1328DLE Briggs powered (13hp 28" wide)

This message was modified Nov 12, 2008 by Snowmann
trouts2




Location: Marlboro MA
Joined: Dec 8, 2007
Points: 1328

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #20   Nov 12, 2008 6:48 pm
   I've got a 1124DLE Pro and it's a duzy.   I have not had it tossing snow but it does an excellent job on New England leaves.   This one at least is a 2004 model and the factory number is 924122.  The engine is a Tecumseh OHV 11.5 and sounds like a standard L-head which is a little dissapointing.  I thought it would like like a Honda.

   Going on side by side, same day, same conditions tests I've found all 8hp, Ariens, Toro and MTD (with decent motors comression wise) throwing about the same distance.  The Ariens and Toro have a slight advantage in higher or packed snow as the MTD is pretty light and the first to lift it's bucket when things get tough.  For testing I often throw against the cemetary maintenance guy's machine which is a 15 year old 8hp Honda track.  It's awsome and out tosses whatever I put against it in the same hp range.  For any loose or fresh snow no matter the height the Honda wins.  It does not do as well into EOD piles.   On long straight runs he always wins by a good margin and out tosses me while doing it.  His Honda is a fearsome snow-eater with a great engine.  I think augers turn at 130 RPM and the impeller faster also than Toro, Ariens or MTD.  I think they turn at 1200 impeller and 120 auger.

trouts2    

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steelers


Joined: Oct 12, 2008
Points: 9

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #21   Nov 12, 2008 8:18 pm
coasteray wrote:
Steelers, I just came across what I think is your model in question, except that it is an 11HP Ariens 1124DLE, from 2003 or 2004, not 11.5HP.  At any rate, check this site:


Thanks coastery. 
goofienewfie


Ariens 1130DLE

Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Points: 107

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #22   Nov 13, 2008 9:17 am
borat wrote:
It will throw more  snow into the wind than your face can handle.  Doesn't really matter what machine you're using.  Snow is snow and wind is wind.  When I have to move snow into the wind, I lower the deflector as low as possible but still able put the snow where I want it.   Light snow in wind is particularly bad.  Wet snow is nowhere near as difficult to work with in the wind but it brings it's own limitations to the job.   

lol... I have to say, this is one of the first post on here that made me laugh.  Mostly because its so true.  If blowing in the wind, if the deflector is not low, then expect your face to freeze.  Even with the deflector low some times it can be tricky.   Borat I seen in your pictures that you have a snow cab on your machine. How do you find that? Approximately how high does it make your machine? wondering how much problems it would create for me coming in and out of shed and how much I would have to tip it back to do so. 
This message was modified Nov 13, 2008 by goofienewfie


Cheers
Goofie Newfie
borat


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Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #23   Nov 13, 2008 11:04 am
goofienewfie wrote:
lol... I have to say, this is one of the first post on here that made me laugh.  Mostly because its so true.  If blowing in the wind, if the deflector is not low, then expect your face to freeze.  Even with the deflector low some times it can be tricky.   Borat I seen in your pictures that you have a snow cab on your machine. How do you find that? Approximately how high does it make your machine? wondering how much problems it would create for me coming in and out of shed and how much I would have to tip it back to do so. 


Did you ever get that stubborn wheel off? 

My snow cab might be around 6'6" at the top.  It's a quick release model and comes off the machine easily.  I put an eye bolt in the top center of the frame and I have a small overhead pully on the ceiling in my garage that I use to store the unit during the summer.  The ceiling is aroun 11 feet or so and with the cab hiked up to the top, I can walk under it with no problems.  As far as effectiveness, all I can say is that it works.  It has to be a bad day before I'll use it though.  I prefer to work without it.  Usually I'll go out and start clearing the snow.  After a few freezing face melts, I smarten up and put the cab on.  It seems that I have to take some punishment  before I start thinking straight.   The unit I have is top notch.  It's made by Classic.  I ordered it from the U.S. for $89.00 late last year.   Tried to buy it locally.  Dealer said he could order one in for me at a cost of $250.00.  NOT!  Wicked gouger.  Here's a link:  http://www.classicaccessories.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=112&cid=0

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Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #24   Nov 14, 2008 11:46 am
borat wrote:
It will throw more  snow into the wind than your face can handle.  Doesn't really matter what machine you're using.  Snow is snow and wind is wind.  When I have to move snow into the wind, I lower the deflector as low as possible but still able put the snow where I want it.   Light snow in wind is particularly bad.  Wet snow is nowhere near as difficult to work with in the wind but it brings it's own limitations to the job.   



Borat

Yeah! the best citation I've ever heard about snow. Borat you touch the point very clearly, wind, snow, ice, those are incontrolable, 

We can choose the snowblower we want but we do not choose the kind of snow that is going to fall!!


goofienewfie


Ariens 1130DLE

Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Points: 107

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #25   Nov 14, 2008 5:32 pm
borat wrote:
Did you ever get that stubborn wheel off? 

My snow cab might be around 6'6" at the top.  It's a quick release model and comes off the machine easily.  I put an eye bolt in the top center of the frame and I have a small overhead pully on the ceiling in my garage that I use to store the unit during the summer.  The ceiling is aroun 11 feet or so and with the cab hiked up to the top, I can walk under it with no problems.  As far as effectiveness, all I can say is that it works.  It has to be a bad day before I'll use it though.  I prefer to work without it.  Usually I'll go out and start clearing the snow.  After a few freezing face melts, I smarten up and put the cab on.  It seems that I have to take some punishment  before I start thinking straight.   The unit I have is top notch.  It's made by Classic.  I ordered it from the U.S. for $89.00 late last year.   Tried to buy it locally.  Dealer said he could order one in for me at a cost of $250.00.  NOT!  Wicked gouger.  Here's a link:  http://www.classicaccessories.com/product_detail.aspx?pid=112&cid=0


No unfortunately I have not. Still working on that one, another idea has arise in that post.

6'6" seems reasonably I believe I can handle that in and out my shed door. Storing it would not be a problem for me as I have a barn style shed, so I could put that up top and it would not be in the way. I like that fact that your model can be easily removed, I will definately be looking for that feature.  The model on the website looks more refined then the one that everybody shows as selling for that model.  The model on the manufacture site even has a place for my tv remote.. lol.. I mean garage. Not that I would ever use that, I don't have anything I can think of that I would need those pockets. But I do like the aerodynamics of the newer one, thinking the snow would run off the top better.  I have search some sites for the deluxe and cheapest I have found so far is $109.99  Think that is reasonably for that, and may order it. Have sent a e-mail asking if its the newer look model or still the square type design.  No chance of me buying locally, after all I cannot even get a simplicity here. ;)   Actually I am sure I could find somebody willing to gouge me to, but they probably be doing the same as me, ordering it online.   I love the internet for things like that, makes the world much smaller place.

Thanks for the link and the model, I believe I will probably end up with the same unit.

Cheers
Goofie Newfie

Cheers
Goofie Newfie
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: snow throwing distance??need help...
Reply #26   Nov 14, 2008 6:16 pm
Compared to everything else I saw, the Classic is the best I could find and for less than ninety bucks, it was a bargain.  Be prepared for a little angst putting it on the machine.  It comes with a hell of a lot of brackets that might seem a little overwhelming until you realized that there are three sizes of brackets to match the required diameter of the tubing you'll be mounting it to.   Being a universal product designed to fit different machines,  and machines having different size tubing necessitate so many brackets.  So in reality, you'll be left with two sets of brackets after the install.  It does take some time and a bit of trial and error.  I found with mine that I had to relocate the light and cut a slit in the bottom of the canopy to allow it to fit down over the control rod turns the chute.  No big deal.  Just a bit of tailoring.  
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