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Ariens 1130DLE

Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Points: 107

Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Original Message   Jan 7, 2008 12:33 pm
Hi All

Loving my Ariens, but I believe a few things need to be tweaked.  The Chute deflector is freezing up. I believe it to be the cable controlling it. There is a rubber nipple at the top of the cable where it attaches to the deflector. Is this rubber nibble supposed to be down past the plastic snap in piece on the second metal clip, or just placed over it?  I have put some WD40 down inside the cable and it hasn't helped at all.

Second, my chute rotation control is too loose when I first start the machine.  The vibration from the engine brings it back to facing front every time.  But after running for about 10 minutes it works  almost perfect. Is this froze up too?  When I say almost perfect it still doesn't stay all the way right even then. The cable seems a little short to me, if I pull some slack on the cable, its better then without.  I did read the manual and it told me to ajust the bolts under the control section.  Loose bottom nut, tighten top one.  But if I do this, will it make it work good for the first 10 minutes and then make it to stiff for the rest?

Cheers
Goofie Newfie

Cheers
Goofie Newfie
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donjag


i've gone to find myself,if i'm here when you arrive,keep me here until i get back.

Location: menasha,wisconsin
Joined: Apr 25, 2007
Points: 142

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #1   Jan 7, 2008 12:55 pm
where did you but it from?if you bought from a big box store it's probably all effed up,if it's new and from a dealer he should take care of it.if it's used,a dealer will fix it.the adjustment you mentioned should work,i did it to mine recently and it fixed it.as for the cable i'm not to sure.

Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #2   Jan 8, 2008 8:43 pm
goofienewfie wrote:
Hi All

Loving my Ariens, but I believe a few things need to be tweaked.  The Chute deflector is freezing up. I believe it to be the cable controlling it. There is a rubber nipple at the top of the cable where it attaches to the deflector. Is this rubber nibble supposed to be down past the plastic snap in piece on the second metal clip, or just placed over it?  I have put some WD40 down inside the cable and it hasn't helped at all.

Second, my chute rotation control is too loose when I first start the machine.  The vibration from the engine brings it back to facing front every time.  But after running for about 10 minutes it works  almost perfect. Is this froze up too?  When I say almost perfect it still doesn't stay all the way right even then. The cable seems a little short to me, if I pull some slack on the cable, its better then without.  I did read the manual and it told me to ajust the bolts under the control section.  Loose bottom nut, tighten top one.  But if I do this, will it make it work good for the first 10 minutes and then make it to stiff for the rest?

Cheers
Goofie Newfie

What's the model number? Starts with a 9, it's 6 or 8 digits long...
goofienewfie


Ariens 1130DLE

Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Points: 107

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #3   Jan 21, 2008 10:27 am
Hi

I bought the unit from a Authorized local dealer. They seem to be good people, but I perfer not to bring it to them for this.  I do not have a truck and a pickup/delivery fee would be charged. I do not believe that its a big enough problem to justify the charge.

Since this post, I got a chance to investigate it a little more.  I took the cover off the chute rotation gears and sized up the system. The thing is, I done this because it was a nice mild day and the chute was again working. After looking at how it works, I believe that the locking tooth that clicks on the gear was probably froze. After looking at it more, I wonder why Ariens didn't completely enclose this system a little better. The bottom is totally open for blowing snow.

The Model I have is this years and its a 1130DLE.

The Chute deflector is still freezing up. Any suggestions? I now leave the chute all the way down, so that when I go out I can bang on it a little to help it rise back up. If you leave the chute up and do this, the cable controlling it will pop off. No big deal, its really easy to put back, but just easier to always leave it down and tap on it.  If that doesn't work I have to go along the cable and crack it a bit to break up the ice inside.  Again I wish the cable was better sealed.. I hope somebody has a solution for this.

Cheers
GoofieNewfie.




Cheers
Goofie Newfie
goofienewfie


Ariens 1130DLE

Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Points: 107

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #4   Jan 26, 2008 8:37 am
hi all..

Was wondering if anybody could shed some light on this?  I have been to the dealer and they are willing to fix it, provided I get it there, which will be a bit of a issue.. I could pay to get it picked up, but this problem doesn't seem to justify it.. Should be a simple fix.  I asked the dealer what it is they will do and he told me that they will funnel some gas line anti freeze into the cable.  So, doesn't seem like its worth paying to get it back and forth for something that simple.

I am going to give this a shot later on today. Its getting annoying. Today I had about 20 cm of snow to clear and it was a pain. What was weird today tho was it seem to be happening on the right side of the rotation chute and not so much on the left. Thought this to be weird as if it was the cable you would think neither side would work.  I also took the cover off the rotation gear and looked at the tooth. It was not frozen at all. So its not the tooth like I thought it was.

The deflector chute is also freezing, so it has to be the cables. I really hope gas line anti freeze solves this problem.

I ask the dealer is this common problem and he said yes. So this is something that ariens should most definately address. Maybe a heavy gauge cable, or better sealing.  As for the problem leaving after 10 minutes, the dealer informed me this was because the engine was warming up the cable and thawing it out.  Today however this did not happen, but it is super cold out.

Thats all for now, hopefully somebody can shed more ideas on these problems

Cheers
GoofieNewfie

Cheers
Goofie Newfie
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #5   Jan 26, 2008 9:59 am
goofienewfie wrote:
hi all..

Was wondering if anybody could shed some light on this?  I have been to the dealer and they are willing to fix it, provided I get it there, which will be a bit of a issue.. I could pay to get it picked up, but this problem doesn't seem to justify it.. Should be a simple fix.  I asked the dealer what it is they will do and he told me that they will funnel some gas line anti freeze into the cable.  So, doesn't seem like its worth paying to get it back and forth for something that simple.

I am going to give this a shot later on today. Its getting annoying. Today I had about 20 cm of snow to clear and it was a pain. What was weird today tho was it seem to be happening on the right side of the rotation chute and not so much on the left. Thought this to be weird as if it was the cable you would think neither side would work.  I also took the cover off the rotation gear and looked at the tooth. It was not frozen at all. So its not the tooth like I thought it was.

The deflector chute is also freezing, so it has to be the cables. I really hope gas line anti freeze solves this problem.

I ask the dealer is this common problem and he said yes. So this is something that ariens should most definately address. Maybe a heavy gauge cable, or better sealing.  As for the problem leaving after 10 minutes, the dealer informed me this was because the engine was warming up the cable and thawing it out.  Today however this did not happen, but it is super cold out.

Thats all for now, hopefully somebody can shed more ideas on these problems

Cheers
GoofieNewfie

Regarding the sticky cap. Probably not the cable. This is most likely simply too tight an interference fit between the cap and the chute. The spring back on the forming of the parts. You might want to tweak the chute or cap a bit to create some clearance. There is also supposed to be Vaseline on the surfaces between the cap and chute to keep them from sticking. Keep the WD40 away from the cable. The cables are prelubed. The WD40 only washes the lubricant out.

For the chute rotation, 1st make sure the cable is adjusted perfectly This mechansim is very sensitive to adjustment. Too much slack (any, actually) and it robs some of the small amount of stroke that is used to unlock the "finger" from the perimeter gear. If there is a pre-tension, then it never fully allows the finger to return and lock the chute. When you are adjusting the cable under the dash, have the gear cover on the chute off so you can monitor the movement of the lock "finger" while you tighten or loosen the cable. Also make sure the chute isn't hanging up on the belt cover when turning to the right. If it is, loosen the chute pedestal from the mounting bracket on the back of the housing, shift it leftward slightly, and re-tighten. Lastly, check the shim washers behind the bevel gear that is slid over the hex shaft. There should be two washers and the gear mesh should be snug. There were a few complaints this year where the chute pedestal weldment wasn't quite right and 3 washers were required or the bevel gear on the hex shaft was held to high (away from the other horizontal bevel gear) as the bracket that positions it wasn't flush with the horizontal flat plate on the chute pedestal.

I hope this helps.

PK
borat


Joined: Nov 10, 2007
Points: 2692

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #6   Jan 26, 2008 10:05 am
I'm having a problem understanding how a frozen cable will work with chute in one direction and not when it's in the opposite position.  That doesn't seem to make sense to me.  If it's frozen, it should be seized.  It sounds to me that you have a defective cable.  I had an ATV once that had a cable actuated gear shifter.  Often when I'd try to shift gears, it would hang up.   What made it worse was that it was an intermittent problem.  The cable had an internal obstruction or burr that would cause it to hang up.  I replaced the cable and the machine worked flawlessly for twenty years afterward.  If I were you, I would not be allowing the issue to go unattended.  I would demand a replacement cable and give them the unit that's causing the problems.  If they can get it to work, tell them to keep it. 

In the interim, what you could do is get a balloon and fill it with a couple oz. of isopropynol or methanol.  Remove the chute end of the cable from the machine and put the end into the balloon ensuring that it's far enough in to allow the fluids to enter a seam or joint.  Tie it off tightly, lift the cable invert the balloon to allow contents to drain through the cable.  Try to get as much as possible as far down the cable as you can.   Gently squeeze the balloon to get the contents into the cable.  Work the cable until it's free.  Once that is accomplished, put a couple oz. of WD-40 into the balloon and repeat process.  Once that is finished, clean off the end of the cable and put a little bead of silicon on the end to minimize opportunity for water to enter it.  If that doesn't keep the cable working freely (regardless of weather conditions) your cable is probably defective.         

This message was modified Jan 26, 2008 by borat
Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Ariens chute deflector freezing up and Chute rotation to loose.
Reply #7   Jan 26, 2008 8:00 pm
One more thing, check the remote cap cable routing to make sure it isn't getting pulled too tight when throwing snow to the right and left.

PK
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