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nibbler


Joined: Mar 5, 2004
Points: 751

New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Original Message   Aug 14, 2007 11:58 am
I was looking at the Ariens site while researching the answer to another posting and noticed they have the 2007 offerings up.

My initial, admittedly picky,  impressions are:

  1. They now have a line of tracked blowers, I suspect that they use a pin lock out system but it is not clear, there is a description on some models of an axle mounted lockout. the "Features" section then says it has smooth maneuverability but doe not explicitly state what type of traction control is in use. This must be a new meaning to the word "smooth" if its in reference to a system that requires you to stop, move around to the side, engage/disengage the axle lock out and then move back to the operator position. If its trigger operated it doesn't mention it. These are the most expensive of the offerings and I would expect them to use the differential drive system with remote locking;
  2. The differences between the "Pro" line and the "Deluxe" line are more obvious. Swath widths,  engine type ( L-Head, OHV), auger gear case and engine HP ratings are all different, see below for the probable traction control differences;
  3. The tracked versions use the B&S Intek Snow engine, all others are Tecumseh
  4. The "Pro" description mentions in passing "automatic traction control, which used to mean a differential. It is not listed in the "Features" section and the pictures don't seem to have triggers.
  5. The fact that I am looking at pictures to deduce a major feature says something about the Marketing decisions being made;
  6. I have not been able to find a reference in the "Deluxe" descriptions as to what sort of traction control is used. For all we know its a solid axle and the the thing just goes in a straight line. I suspect its a remote locking axle but can't say for sure;
  7. The FAQ says that the "Pro" line uses "traction control" ( a.k.a. differential) while the "Deluxe" uses remote lock out, unfortunately the "Deluxe" line includes the 1130 DLE, the "D" is supposed to mean Differential. It looks like the FAQ wasn't changed from last year since there is no mention of the tracked models;
  8. "Chute Turning Radius" is listed as 200°. Degrees are used to measure angles, radii are measured in units of length ( inches, centimeters, furlongs ...);
  9. Chute turning is generally listed as remote control from the operator console yet the feature uses a picture of a manually controlled chute.
Thoughts

I am obviously upset with the lack of traction system descriptions. Since this was always a major differentiator between the "Pro" and "Deluxe" lines the omission from this year's descriptions is frustrating and confusing.

Last year the "Pro" and "Deluxe" lines were almost identical except for the traction systems and its was hard in my mind to justify the extra expense for the Pro when the trigger axle lock out seemed to work just fine. I have a hunch that a lot of Deluxes were sold instead of Pros because of this. The reaction has been to change the lineups so they are less "comparable". The effort has muddied things up a bit, I personally find it frustrating.

The inclusion of the 1130DLE in the Deluxe line up may have been driven by the aluminum auger gear case, either that or the "D" is a typo.

I suspect there will be a lot of discussion about this.


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Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Reply #8   Aug 20, 2007 2:09 pm
Nibbler,

Good question. The tracked models are 40% slower. This was more to accomodate a very low first gear more than anything. This is the most important gear for a track drive model.

Yeah, even OHV for OHV the Briggs is 50% quieter.

PK

nibbler


Joined: Mar 5, 2004
Points: 751

Re: New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Reply #9   Aug 20, 2007 11:48 pm
So the B&S is 3db less than the Tecumseh OHV. How come we don't have B&S on the Pro models? Aren't they used in the same venues by people who want to travel faster ( like me)?

BTW If you need anyone to test any or all of the new beasts my rates are reasonable.
CFoote


Joined: Feb 4, 2006
Points: 9

Re: New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Reply #10   Oct 12, 2007 3:45 pm
Snowmann wrote:

Note both the automatic differential and dual belt drive are available as accessories should you purchase a unit that has neither or simply wish to upgrade (926,XXX units only). If you want part numbers and costs PM me and I'll see what I can do. I don't believe these accessory kits are created yet, but they should be on Monday.

PK


Hi Paul, I have a 2004/2005 11528LE (926 chassis). Would either of these accessory kits work on my older model?

Chris

Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Reply #11   Oct 12, 2007 9:45 pm
CFoote wrote:

Hi Paul, I have a 2004/2005 11528LE (926 chassis). Would either of these accessory kits work on my older model?

Chris


The 926,XXX series chassis was new in 2005/2006. What is your model number (on the lest side of the frame)? If it is a 924,XXX model, then these will not fit, if it is a 926,XXX then yes.
CFoote


Joined: Feb 4, 2006
Points: 9

Re: New Ariens Sno-thro Lineup
Reply #12   Oct 15, 2007 7:49 am
Snowmann wrote:
The 926,XXX series chassis was new in 2005/2006. What is your model number (on the lest side of the frame)? If it is a 924,XXX model, then these will not fit, if it is a 926,XXX then yes.

I'm sorry, you are right, it's a 924,XXX model. Shucks! Oh well, thank you for responding anyway.

Chris

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