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dsharp


Joined: Oct 13, 2006
Points: 18

Snowblower guidance (help!)
Original Message   Oct 13, 2006 3:21 pm
Take pity upon me. I've been lurking here, and I'm looking for some suggestions on a snowblower.

I've narrowed it down to four snowblowers (all around $900 to $1,000):

Cub Cadet, 10 hp, Tecumseh L-head, 28-inch

Husqvarna, 10.5 hp, Tecumseh OHV, 30-inch

Craftsman, 10.5 hp, Briggs OHV, 30-inch

Arien, 9 hp, Tecumseh L-head, 26-inch

The Husq and the Craftsman look to me to be made by the same manufacturers. The Sears guy told me that theirs is made by Murray. Yikes! I actually prefer the first three for ease of use. Of course, I'm aware of the Ariens reputation, though the 9-hp model isn't overly impressive.

Any thoughts? (My driveway is 25 by 50, and I live in Maine. Snowfally can be heavy, but the worst part is the pile at the end of the driveway that's caused by the snow plow!)

Thanks,

David

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jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #14   Oct 18, 2006 1:49 pm
DSHARP,

Check with your Husky or Poulan dealers (same machines with different Names).

Sears version, I understand uses bushings instead of bearings, smaller belts on Traction and Augar drives.

They have OHV engines on some of their blowers. Also trigger disconnect triggers for turning on a dime.

My chute controls, not quite as good as Toro's, but better than anyone else.

Huakys also have infinate speed settings, not just 4 or 5 speeds.

 Blower should run about $1100.00 at a dealer.

Lowes a 10.5 HP L head engine. 30 inch bite $999.00, with their credit, 10 % more off makes it $899.00 and also receive a  free

snow cab for it.

                                         Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #15   Oct 18, 2006 1:53 pm
DSHARP,

 Forgot tis bit of info.

Go to the Husky and Poulan web site  and read up on them.

You can also download op's and parts manual.

                                                            Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
dsharp


Joined: Oct 13, 2006
Points: 18

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #16   Oct 24, 2006 7:01 am
Well, I like 'em all including the Husky, but I'm leaning toward the Ariens at this point. I liked the 11528 with a 11.5 hp OHV. engine  I can get it at the orange big box store or from a local dealer. One question is whether the almuminum gear case is OK, or whether it's worth the extra $$ for the cast iron gear case. That's the only big difference I see between the two.

The Ariens is about the same price at both places when you include the extended warranty. If I skip the warranty (which includes pickup service), then the cost advantage goes to Home Depot. Are these things reliable, or is an extended warranty a good idea?

The dealer says he thinks the Toro is sturdier than the Ariens. Hard to know what's in the guts of the machine. The 10-hp Toro costs $100 more -- better controls but no OHV engine. I like the Toro too!

David

cleblanc


Joined: Oct 3, 2006
Points: 11

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #17   Oct 24, 2006 10:38 am
As it turns out I did not get the Toro yet.  My local dealer tried to pull a fast one on the order and charge me $50 for a documentation fee.  I said I wasn't paying it and resented him adding it on after the fact and not telling me about it when we made the deal.  They would not admit they did anything wrong so I cancelled the order and walked out.  I have another local dealer that I can get the Toro from but my husband is leaning toward the Cub Cadet at HD again for $400 less.  So far my local HD has not had them in stock so we have not purchased yet.  I still would really like the Toro and I even let their customer service department know about what the dealer did.

Has anyone else ever heard of a documentation fee?  Is this common when buying outdoor power equipment.  The dealer claims it was for applying for the 1 year Toro financing.  This makes no sense to me at all.  I have applied many times for 1 year no interest no payment financing and have never heard of a fee associated with it.  Why would anyone use it if it cost $50 to do so?  I think my dealer was just trying to make up for giving me the free delivery I asked for.   

dsharp


Joined: Oct 13, 2006
Points: 18

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #18   Oct 25, 2006 6:23 am
My local dealer didn't charge for the financing option when I purchased a Toro Super Recycler mower. I think your Toro dealer is nuts to let you walk away over a $50 fee. Toro customer service is actually decent. I had a problem with my Super Recycler and they made it right. I also found that while I was not thrilled with the sales staff, the service department at my Toro dealer was pretty easy to work with.

 Good luck!

dsharp


Joined: Oct 13, 2006
Points: 18

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #19   Nov 1, 2006 5:22 pm
Thanks for the help here. I'll put out one last call for counsel:

I'm looking at either the Toro 10 hp Tecumseh L-head, or the Ariens LE 11.5 hp Techumseh OHV. Both have a 28-inch bite. I don't want to sink the money in the pro model, and I believe I can live with the cast aluminum gear box based on a chat with the service manager of my local dealer. The dealer carries both Toro and Arien.  I'm probably leaning toward the Ariens at this point, but could be swayed. Interestingly enough, the sales staff recommends the Toro over the Ariens LE and Ariens pro line based on its "tough gear box." The service department, however, recommends Ariens based on the no polycarbonate/plastic justification.

Plastic/metal aside, I'm hung up on the engine choice: I like the Arien's OHV but it has less displacement, 318 cc vs 358 cc on the Toro L-head. Which is going to work harder/last longer, the OHV with less displacement and higher hp, or the L-head with more displacement but less hp? What sayeth the engineers? 

I have the day off on Friday, so I plan to make my purchase then. I figure I can't go wrong either way.... I wish I had a strong color preference, orange vs. red. That would would make it easier

jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #20   Nov 1, 2006 5:48 pm
Go with the Ariens, greater HP!!

You may not need it, but when you do for EOD, it's there!!!!

                                                   Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
cleblanc


Joined: Oct 3, 2006
Points: 11

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #21   Nov 2, 2006 6:25 am
I ended up getting the Toro 1028LXE after all from a different dealer.  He was able to match the price of $1399 and give the 1 year financing.  He also gave me free delivery since he is only 5 minutes away.  It is scheduled to arrive this Saturday.  I'm glad that decision is made.  It really was a very tough decision between all the snowblower choices.

Dsharp - Obviously I voted for the Toro over the Ariens 11528LE (which was a big contender with us too).  I think either machine will be fine as far as the engine goes and it came down to which will be easier to use.  Nothing was able to beat the joystick controls for me   My husband  preferred a plastic chute too and the Toro has a 5 year warranty on the chute so I am not worried.  We also preferred the lighter weight of the Toro.

Good luck with your choice.     

Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #22   Nov 3, 2006 9:18 am
dsharp wrote:
Thanks for the help here. I'll put out one last call for counsel:

I'm looking at either the Toro 10 hp Tecumseh L-head, or the Ariens LE 11.5 hp Techumseh OHV. Both have a 28-inch bite. I don't want to sink the money in the pro model, and I believe I can live with the cast aluminum gear box based on a chat with the service manager of my local dealer. The dealer carries both Toro and Arien.  I'm probably leaning toward the Ariens at this point, but could be swayed. Interestingly enough, the sales staff recommends the Toro over the Ariens LE and Ariens pro line based on its "tough gear box." The service department, however, recommends Ariens based on the no polycarbonate/plastic justification.

Plastic/metal aside, I'm hung up on the engine choice: I like the Arien's OHV but it has less displacement, 318 cc vs 358 cc on the Toro L-head. Which is going to work harder/last longer, the OHV with less displacement and higher hp, or the L-head with more displacement but less hp? What sayeth the engineers? 

I have the day off on Friday, so I plan to make my purchase then. I figure I can't go wrong either way.... I wish I had a strong color preference, orange vs. red. That would would make it easier


The Ariens XS style gearbox (Aluminum and Cast Iron styles) is easily the equal to the Toro, and in some ways better (although the Toro gearbox is of good robust design). I can elaborate if you wish.

I don't really agree with their "so strong it doesn't even need shear bolts" propaganda though. That's like removing the seat belts from a Ford Excusrion just becuase it's so big.

PK

Snowmann


Joined: Dec 3, 2003
Points: 494

Re: Snowblower guidance (help!)
Reply #23   Nov 3, 2006 9:23 am
Nice spelling I have there. "Excusrion" and "Becuase". Moderators, where's the ever so helpful edit button?
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