Outdoor Power Equipment (Lawn Mowers, Snow Blowers, Chain Saws and more) Discussions

Hello All

I have a 2005-06' 926dle with the new chute rotation controll . The chute exhibits some strange behaviour. If you move the controll quickly left to right or vice/v,  there may be some backlash of the chute. By this I mean the chute has not locked into position properly. It may lock, but not where you want it to. Chutes gone wild. I took the chute gear assembly apart and it seemed to have to much play between the Chute Gear and the Locking Chute Gear at certain positions. On my unit the problem was worse on the left side. This design, as is, has a very narrow operating tolerance.  I replaced the two washers behind the chute gear (spacers to me)  with a slightly thicker nylon washer and now it operates as it was intended too. I am sure this will vary from unit to unit.  I think Ariens is going to get some calls on this. I don't mind fixing this myself, actually it  was kinda fun to figure it out and get it to work properly. YMMV.  When I was all done perfecting this setup I measured the chute rotation to be aprox. 210 degrees. With a different Chute Gear this could easily be more.

John

I was in HD last Friday....looked at an Ariens ...found the chute control did not work properly.  I brought it to the attention of the staffmember.  I suggested that HD should exercise more care when assembling a floor model.  His reply was interesting....HD doesn't do the Ariens assembly....Ariens sends in  local OPE Ariens service personnel to do the job!!!   Interesting!!!  Now, his saying so doesn't make it "the whole truth and nothing but the truth" - but it's an interesting slant on things.

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Newjerseybt: " Ariens does listen to it's customers though......"

It may be the problem!

The Ariens ingeneers are suppose to know what principles is best to built efficient snowblowers than their customers fantasy!

Will they build an efficient reliable chute one day? ..........  May be after having try out every concepts possible!

Would be more profitable to put something on paper prior to try to built it!

My opinion.

 

I think the electric chute was the one to go on whit. At least for some models. It was an argument over the other brands who don't have it and was working well. On the touch of a button you could throw the snow on the target you want.  Fast enough and verry precise to throw the snow exactly were you want it. Especially wen you dont have large area to dispose the snow .... Just like me.  An electric deflector would be a dream!

I plan to install a joystick (like the Honda 928TCD) and add a small electric motor on the deflector cable line to electricaly control the chute AND the deflector...... One day...... Next year maybe.  Seems pretty easy to do. Finding the right equipement for the job will be more difficult though!    But you can count on me to do some thinking before. I wont try 15 differents concepts!

Plugger give that spacer a try. It's an easy fix.

Assembly is not the issue here, although  incorrect assembly will lead improper operation. Even when the unit is assembled correctly the chute can have a mind of its' own. It does work when *fixed*, I like it. A new machine owner should not have to be tweaking  mechanical tolerances to obtain propper performance. You can test your machine with this procedure:

1) Operat the chute controll as if to change chute direction. Hold the controll in the slightly up position (lock disengagged)

2 )try to move the chute while performing the above

Even though the lock in disengagged at this point,  pressure on the controll will (should) hold it in position.

The problem is that at certain points of chute rotation the mating gears become seperated. The lock IS functioning but allows the chute to move. Yes, the chute can move even though it is "locked". As I said before, this design has a very narrow operating tolerance.

On another note I plan to make a ptfe(teflon plastic) collar to fit between the chute and main blower housing. I find my gap to be nearly 1/4 inch! rattle thunder clatter.  Hard to beleive there is that much slop there. Note to Ariens- fit and finish.

John

I  noticed a couple of members from other OPE sites who bought the new Ariens machines are also having difficulties with the new chute design. My neighbor has a new 926LE and it works fine. Maybe the "luck of the draw"?

I sent Ariens a "heads up" E-Mail hinting that a quick easy "fix" may be in order.

I will keep the forum apprised of any updates or of any new information I receive from Ariens.

newjerseybt wrote:

I think operating style/conditions contribute to the problem. My chute would operate fine up to a point.  When I got to aggressive with the controll,as in very fast lateral movement,  thats when things got a bit  tricky.  The chute would hit the end of travel and then bounce back to some undetermined position. The controll lever and the chute direction then did not corespond. It may be that this problem only surfaces under the right conditions.  That spacer size I think will vary from one machine to the next. There may be a problem with the alignment of this controll assembly in relation the the main housing.  I don't think the flex in the handlebars helps any. If you apply pressure to the bars it transfers some of it  to the area in question.  There should be much stronger handlebars. The high end Simplicitys' have some nice strong handlebars.

I have received an acknowledgment  E-Mail back from David Miller at Ariens. They will forward it on to their technical area. I wouldn't be surprised if they are already aware of the problem.

The top of the line Honda models do not use a box frame. Neither does Toro. I never heard of an Ariens having problems with fatigued/cracked handle bars. I would like a bit a flex and keep vibrations from the system from being fed back to the operator. It is just a preference. The Ariens machines already weighs plenty. 

As you said, the spacers that may be necessary to tweek the tolerances would vary from unit to unit as assembly tolerances are probably not very tight. 

As a retired USAF  Maintenance officer, it amazes me how Ariens does not test their equipment throughly befor going into production!!

They have had Drive problems, Blow By problems, and now this!!

That is why I did not buy an Ariens Snowblower!!

                                                                            Fred

I've been in HD several times in the last couple of weeks and every time the chute control didn't work. Up until today no matter how you pulled or pushed the control the chute would not move. Today no matter how you pulled or pushed the control the chute would not lock. I had a look and from what I can see I get the feeling the adjustment of the cable that goes to the chute is what may be off.

I also tried the one handed control lock and it didn't work. The actual mechanism is much more robust that the MTD machine that was beside it. The only problem was the MTD worked and the Ariens didn't.

In both cases I suspect its a setup problem.

I was at a Home Depot today and checked the 3 Ariens they had out on the floor; 926, 11528 and 1336 LEs. The chute controls seemed to work fine, but I didn't really like the way the chutes whipped noisily around from side to side. Perhaps under actual working conditions that would be mitigated.