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Mads
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Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Original Message Dec 8, 2005 3:53 pm |
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Hi, All! I'm a first timer here. Great forum! I got a question for the pros: Got an Arien 1332 Pro. (The 2000 Pro model with the electric chute). I'm tired to see the snowthro trying to climb on the heavy snow that the plows leaves in front of the garage entrance many times each snowstrorm. So i decide to add some extra weight on the front of the snowthro. I know that Ariens have a stock extra weight kit. This metal plate according to Ariens is 10 Lbs. But because it's the same kit for all snowthrowers models, it may not be the exact perfect weight to add on a larger model like mine. Anyways none of the Ariens dealers near my home have it in stock. And because just the delivery fee of this kit will cost me as much as the kit itself - because of the weight - I decide to made one myself. But how much weight will be enought - more than 10Lbs I guess - and hom much weight will be too much? Anybody have done this on his snowthrower ? How did you made the insallation, did you put a rubber plate under it to avoid scratching the paint, do you put the plate under or over the deck, what's the dimmensions and thickness of the plate etc... Any clues, any infos to help me have it done properly ? Thank you. P.S: Don't have a cab and will not have one. Again, thank you!
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faithfulFrank
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #8 Dec 9, 2005 4:18 pm |
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Mads, I PM'd you...... My weight came with my snow cab.....it is made for the ariens......it is 20 lbs steel. Came with rubber washers to keep it from rubbing/touching the orange steel, and is bolts on the front of the unit. Bad thing is that the small plastic shovel that came with the unit no longer fits well with the weight. With 13hp though, I NEVER have needed it. I plan on mounting it back on soon in another spot. I'll try to post a picture here for you.
Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230 Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
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jubol
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #9 Dec 9, 2005 4:26 pm |
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Mads, Mine is under the top lip of my auger housing. Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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jubol
Location: Dover, De
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #10 Dec 9, 2005 4:29 pm |
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FF, You have the cab, that is why the 20 pounds!! You need the extra weight to counter balance the cab! Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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Mads
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #11 Dec 11, 2005 1:51 pm |
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Nobody else have an idea of how much weight i should add on this machine!? I understand 20 Lbs is to conterballance the cab. If so, the snowblower equiped with the cab and the extra 20Lbs weight should still have the tendencies to climb on the hard packed snow. So I am still left with the question of how much weight should I add (without a cab) to correct this problem. Any idea? Please Mads
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jubol
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #12 Dec 11, 2005 2:25 pm |
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Mads, Cab weighs about 15 to 18 lbs. I would say add 8 to 10 pounds. You might want to try a 2 in PVC pipe, Or 2 inch iron pipe. With one end glued with a cap and the other cap screwed into the pipe with 2 scrws. Weigh some sand and try different weights. Mount on top of auger housing. Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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faithfulFrank
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #13 Dec 11, 2005 4:08 pm |
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Fred, You are right, yes.it is because of the cab...... As to the blower climbing over the hard packed snow......mine still does it sometimes.....I do not really know if there IS a fix. I mean, my snowblower weighs well over 300 lbs , and it still hits a hard packed snow drift and starts spinning. I have to lift up on it a bit so it can climb over the first inch or so, then it goes fine. I'm not too happy with this....I do not recall my old 724 toro doing this, but that old blower had chains on it and both wheels drove. When I put the Ariens in the pin lock position, it does help some, but does not solve it. I'll have times when we may only get 2 inches of snow, but STRONG winds that will make a 2' drift of hard packed fine snow. It throws the snow fine, but will sometimes spin in it's tracks when it hits this drift. I do not think there is much I can do but to live with it. I certainly can't go any bigger........... This is where that trigger thing would be a blessing. Chains might help, but I do not like what they do to my blacktop. I was hoping that the snow hog tires would do a good enough job by themselves. Perhaps that is why Ariens changed tires this year. The new tires look better to me. Frank D.
Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230 Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
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jubol
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #14 Dec 11, 2005 4:19 pm |
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FF, Mt Husky blower has the X Trac tires as does the Ariens this year. You might try the black pipe to add some weight to the front of your blower. Painted an Ariens color, of course. Fred
Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower, MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP Self Prop Lawn Mower, Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis 2000
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YKW1
Location: Central Connecticut
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #15 Dec 11, 2005 6:29 pm |
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Regarding climbing snow pile. On my old Ariens manual it suggests flipping shoes, placing narrow edge down.
Ariens ST524 (1989 Vintage) ****** Husqvarna 10527SBE
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spottedpony
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #17 Dec 11, 2005 8:19 pm |
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Mads, You really didnt indicate here if your trying to hold the front end of the blower down, or if its a tractive issue your dealing with. If your looking for a little more weight for traction purposes possibly these suggestions might help. Thinking in terms of my farm equipment, the most effective place to add weight when needed is at the wheels themselves. It might be possible to fabricate some small wheel weights or add fluid to the tires? with the farm equipment we add a calcium solution in the tires, which wouldnt be practical in the small tire of a snowblower, but an alternitive may be the same thing ive done with my riding mower. ive got some hilly places in my yard where the smooth grass tires will spin when mowing, so i applied the same principle as putting fluid in the tires on farm equipment, only i used the commonly availible "RV anti freeze" in my case i added a total of 3 gallons to the two drive tires for a total added weight of just over 20 lbs. and it made a noticible difference. the rv stuff also is non toxic so it can be disposed of in any manner should you need to remove it. not knowing the size tires on your blower i'd just have to guess at the amount of weight you could add but assuming a 4 inch diamter tube & a length (if it was straightened out) of 12 inches would be in the neighborhood of 175 cubic inches of area, a gallon is 231 c.i. and the rv antifreeze weighs in at around 7 lbs per gallon so you should easily be able to add 12 or 13 lbs to both wheels where the weight would be most effective. the added benifit of the heavier tire/wheel would be more torque applied for traction and not losing it to wheel spin. perhaps this, or a combination of this and added weight on the front (as we do on the farm equipment at times also) will provide effective for you
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