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Mads


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Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Original Message   Dec 8, 2005 3:53 pm
Hi, All!

I'm a first timer here. Great forum!

I got a question for the pros:

Got an Arien 1332 Pro. (The 2000 Pro model with the electric chute).

I'm tired to see the snowthro trying to climb on the heavy snow that the plows leaves in front of the garage entrance many times each snowstrorm.

So i decide to add some extra weight on the front of the snowthro.

I know that Ariens have a stock extra weight kit. This metal plate according to Ariens is 10 Lbs. But because it's the same kit for all snowthrowers models, it may not be the exact perfect weight to add on a larger model like mine. Anyways none of the Ariens dealers near my home have it in stock. And because just the delivery fee of this kit will cost me as much as the kit itself  -  because of the weight - I decide to made one myself.

But how much weight will be enought - more than 10Lbs I guess - and hom much weight will be too much?

Anybody have done this on his snowthrower ?

How did you made the insallation, did you put a rubber plate under it to avoid scratching the paint, do you put the plate under or over the deck, what's the dimmensions and thickness of the plate etc...

Any clues, any infos to help me have it done properly ?

Thank you.

P.S: Don't have a cab and will not have one.

Again, thank you!

 

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jubol


Location: Dover, De
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #4   Dec 8, 2005 5:09 pm
Mads,

You are welcome!

I checked my blower and it is 30 inchs from center of my wheels to center of my weight

So 7.5 lbs X  2.5 feet  = 18.75 foot pounds of down ward force on the front of the blower.

That is a lot of increase!!!

                                                                                Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
Mads


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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #5   Dec 8, 2005 6:52 pm
Well,

I expected more because two Ariens dealers told me to add about 20 Lbs on my machine.

I was suspicious because of the 10 Lbs weight proposed by Ariens. The 20 Lbs they recommand  seems to be too much in that perspective.

So my instinc to ask the question on the forum was probably right.

I learned not to be too confident when my instinc tell me something else than the so called pros or expert says.

Thank you.

Mads. 

jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #6   Dec 8, 2005 6:56 pm
Mads

 My blower weighs about 270 pounds with the weight bolted on!!

                          Hope this helps!

                                                    Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
Mads


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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #7   Dec 8, 2005 7:05 pm
I don't know,

But a fast question: The weight is bolted over or under the deck on your blower ?

faithfulFrank


He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep
to gain what he cannot lose....


Location: Batavia, N.Y.
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #8   Dec 9, 2005 4:18 pm
Mads,
I PM'd you......

My weight came with my snow cab.....it is made for the ariens......it is 20 lbs steel. Came with rubber washers to keep it from rubbing/touching the orange steel, and is bolts on the front of the unit.
Bad thing is that the small plastic shovel that came with the unit no longer fits well with the weight.  With 13hp though, I NEVER have needed it.

I plan on mounting it back on soon in another spot.

I'll try to post a picture here for you.



Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230  Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #9   Dec 9, 2005 4:26 pm
Mads,

Mine is under the top lip of my auger housing.

                                                      Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
Points: 1558

Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #10   Dec 9, 2005 4:29 pm
FF,

You have the cab, that is why the 20 pounds!!

You need the extra weight to counter balance the cab!

                                         Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
Mads


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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #11   Dec 11, 2005 1:51 pm
Nobody else have an idea of how much weight i should add on this machine!?

I understand 20 Lbs is to conterballance the cab.

If so, the snowblower equiped with the cab and the extra 20Lbs weight should still have the tendencies to climb on the hard packed snow.

So I am still left with the question of how much weight should I add (without a cab) to correct this problem.

Any idea? 

Please

                                                                  Mads

jubol


Location: Dover, De
Joined: Oct 3, 2003
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Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #12   Dec 11, 2005 2:25 pm
Mads,

Cab  weighs about 15 to 18 lbs.

I would say add 8 to 10 pounds.

You might want to try a 2 in PVC pipe, Or 2 inch iron pipe.

With one end  glued with a cap and the other cap screwed into the pipe with 2 scrws.

Weigh some sand and try different weights.

Mount on top of auger housing.

                                   Fred

Husqvarna STE927(11.5HP) snowblower,  MTD Pro Series 18/42 Lawnmower, MTD 6.5 HP  Self Prop Lawn Mower,  Weedeater 1500 Blower, Web Gensis  2000 
faithfulFrank


He is no fool who gives up what he cannot keep
to gain what he cannot lose....


Location: Batavia, N.Y.
Joined: Jan 20, 2004
Points: 1067

Re: Adding extra weight on a snowthrower !!??
Reply #13   Dec 11, 2005 4:08 pm
Fred,
You are right, yes.it is because of the cab......
As to the blower climbing over the hard packed snow......mine still does it sometimes.....I do not really know if there IS a fix.
I mean, my snowblower weighs well over 300 lbs , and it still hits a hard packed snow drift and starts spinning.  I have to lift up on it a bit so it can climb over the first inch or so, then it goes fine.
I'm not too happy with this....I do not recall my old 724 toro doing this, but that old blower had chains on it and both wheels drove.

When I put the Ariens in the pin lock position, it does help some, but does not solve it.  I'll have times when we may only get 2 inches of snow, but STRONG winds that will  make a 2' drift of hard packed fine snow. It throws the snow fine, but will sometimes spin in it's tracks when it hits this drift. I do not think there is much I can do but to live with it. I certainly can't go any bigger...........

This is where that trigger thing would be a blessing.

Chains might help, but I do not like what they do to my blacktop.  I was hoping that the snow hog tires would do a good enough job by themselves. Perhaps that is why Ariens changed tires this year. The new tires look better to me.

Frank D.


Ariens 1332DLE Pro, Exmark 52" HP ZTR, Gardian Generac generator, Shindiawa T230  Excell/Honda PW, Craftsman rototiller, Favorite IPE- My Mac + Ipod- No Windoze for me!
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