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Toro 828LXE

Location: Near Albany, NY
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
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Shady Grass
Original Message   May 24, 2005 6:34 pm
I'm looking for the best & toughest grass for use in a no sun zone of my yard. The area gets a lot of traffic, so it has to be a durable grass.

I appreciate all types that meet my needs, but also if a particular brand is better than the competition.

Before coming back to Abby's recently I posted this request for the best grass to grow throughout the web. Needless to say most respondents advised using the kind of grass you smoke, not mow.

It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
--Friedrich Nietzsche
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Marshall


As Long As There Are Tests, There Will Be Prayer In Public Schools. ;- )

Joined: Sep 16, 2002
Points: 7730

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #14   May 25, 2005 12:43 pm
LOL Kevin, if we wait past the end of Feb, it's too late to put down crabgrass preventer here. 
AJace


I have an Ariens 926 Pro because I like Orange



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Re: Shady Grass
Reply #15   May 25, 2005 1:50 pm
Scotts is the best!!

Ariens 926 DLE Professional; Toro S200; Craftsman LT1000, Echo ES-230;

Vangellis


Dream more easy in the chair that really fits you.

Location: Factoryville, PA. (NE PA)
Joined: Oct 1, 2003
Points: 373

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #16   May 25, 2005 2:07 pm
Marshall wrote:
LOL Kevin, if we wait past the end of Feb, it's too late to put down crabgrass preventer here. 

I'm usually looking at a 12" base of snow.


Simplicity Conquest
snowshoveler


tides in dirts out surfs up

Location: bridgewater nova scotia...aka the swamp
Joined: Jan 3, 2003
Points: 1261

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #17   May 25, 2005 7:37 pm
12 inch base of snow

12 inch base of water here...if i had of known about all this water coming i might have put some seed in a month ago.

but its been so cold and wet i would only have mushrooms.

later chris

craftsman 10/28 snowblower with tracks   husky 372xpg chainsaw   sachs dolmar bc212 bushsaw   mondo trimmer   monster tractor with trailer    cheep wheelbarro and couple shovels and a partridge in a pear tree 
robmints


Joined: May 13, 2003
Points: 4691

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #18   May 25, 2005 8:27 pm
Top dress with organic stuff every 3-4 years or so, some chicken poop or something to fertilize, some corn gluten meal as a pre-emergent, over-seed once in a while in the fall. Cheaper, easier and better, healthier, more durable, easier to maintain lawn than any chemical based program I have seen or used. Dave_in_CT led me down the organic (with a little cheating) path, and I think it is great. Oh yeah, two more things, cut it high, and if you have a well, read the fertilzer bag that you put on your lawn and think about if you want the stuff in the bag in your water. I chose chicken poop, CGM, some organic stuff, and worm poop.
Dave___in___CT


Deliberate often...
...decide once...


Location: West-Central Connecticut
Joined: Sep 17, 2002
Points: 3159

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #19   May 25, 2005 8:42 pm
Robmints...

Thanks for the Organic plug... didn't know anyone was paying attention...

I like natural... not synthetic/man-made.. when it come to food / plants / living things like us !  

Natural/organic  DOES make a positive differnece... it does... I know this for a fact... self-proven on myself and living things...

Now... if I get closer to the natural/organic way... I'll be better off for it... I'm further away than I was 4 years ago... not a good thing for me...

...but a goal to work towards...

Small changes... big improvements !

Dave...

Whether you think you can or you can't... you're right.
Henry Ford

   BCS Tractor & snowblower

robmints


Joined: May 13, 2003
Points: 4691

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #20   May 25, 2005 9:15 pm
Dave,
You are welcome. But You get the thanks. Instead of paying the lawn service for the 3 or 5 time treatment, and killing the birds, and I think, my cats. It takes me about 2 hours a year, and usually less the $100, and my lawn has never looked better. Drought and everything. The only cheating I do is starter fertilizer if I need a patch. It's the way to go, I never have a worry about kids, or pets.
SnowRemover


Toro 828LXE

Location: Near Albany, NY
Joined: Jan 12, 2005
Points: 139

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #21   May 26, 2005 8:51 am
robmints wrote:
read the fertilzer bag that you put on your lawn and think about if you want the stuff in the bag in your water. I chose chicken poop, CGM, some organic stuff, and worm poop.

Can I fertilize with bubble gum? I'm not happy with the above choices in my water. :-)

--SnowRemover

It is hard enough to remember my opinions, without also remembering my reasons for them!
--Friedrich Nietzsche
TheKneebiter


Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Points: 233

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #22   May 26, 2005 10:05 am
I agree 100% organic. When i first purchased my home it was all new to me. My lawn was kind of run down so i asked questions and was pointed to SCOTTS . The first 2 years using it i had the best lawn in the neighborhood. All of a sudden i started having problems. first the grubs got bad. I called scotts and was told to use there insect controll. Didnt work ! Then the fungus took over. Called scotts and was told to use there fungus control. Within a year my lawn looked like poop and i spent over a grand in chemicals. I started online research and forum posting and was told about chemical fertz. They rob your soil of needed nutrients and cause shallow roots. They also cause thatch which leads to bugs and fungus. I purchased a dethatcher and dug deep. I then over seeded with a good quality mix. I then made the switch to Organic. First thing in the spring i fill my 20 gallon hose end sprayer with a bottle of beer and spray my lawn. a few weeks later i fill it with dish washing soap and spray the lawn. I then put down a bag of 100% organic fert. On the 4th of july i spray the lawn with beer again. In the fall i fert one more time. I cut it high and often and bag.  My lawn is as healthy as can be. no more fungus, or bugs. no poison. Use much less water and Much less money spent !
This message was modified May 26, 2005 by TheKneebiter


TheKneebiter


Joined: Oct 22, 2004
Points: 233

Re: Shady Grass
Reply #23   May 26, 2005 10:14 am
I feel sorry for you. in a few years you will be kicking yourself very very hard. your grass will look like Straw all summer and first thing in the fall. You might get 2 months of full green grass if you are lucky.  Once the zoisa takes hold, and it will, its gonna look like crap. If i were you and the stuff was just put in i would dig out every plug and dont miss one. Put some fresh soil in the holes and plant some fresh seed or sod. i have 5 neighbors all older that planted the stuff 10 years ago and let me tell you, its not a pretty sight. The zoisa is meant for florida,bermuda,california, places where you need consitent 80 degree temp or higher. Trust me when i say, remove it now before it takes hold. AND IT WILL. next year you will have green grass with a few small straw like brown patches, the next year a few more brown patches , the next year a brown lawn with a few green patches untill its all brown untill the weather hits 80 degrees then it will look ok for a month or 2 untill the weater changes and we get a temp drop and the straw is back.   Dave___in___CT wrote:
Hi...

I have a similar grass situation too...

Fell for an ad on Zoisa Grass... sounds good...  "Buyer beware..." 

Bought and and planted "1,200 plugs"  ((yeah !   right !))  of it in a ~~12x40' area... thought it would (advertised to) plant twice this  area...

No results yet...  just 2-3 weeks planted... ordered more...    S U C K E R  ? ? ?  

Looks like "the hair club for men"... a hair transplant...

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If U get it... buy the expensive $25 drill bit for planting...

Mr. Nieve...    Dave___in___CT           

This message was modified May 26, 2005 by TheKneebiter


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